Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by smilkovpetko » Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:06 pm

Etecc wrote:- Can anyone confirm the low proc chance? Or is this just something everyone feels like?

- just a small thing to HOJ: Its not just a white hit. It can proc extra white hits which can proc SoC and those can also proc another HOJ Proc and Socs, trinkets and other stuff.

- If Maelstrom is working right id go with HOJ and that, if not ill stay with BB and HOJ since the Zandalarian really isnt as great as I had thought, cuz there is no additional utility, just big Spellpower every 5 minutes.


Just to clarify some stuffs that are not known yet , Hands of Justice have approx 2% chance to give and extra white hit that can crit and proc Vengeance.

Now regarding Seal of Command , it might add you earlier proc of this ability but in a matter of fact that Seal of Command have PPM by the end of the fight you will not have extra procs , but it will remain the same procs regardless of the procs from HoJ or not .

Maelstrom in other hand have 1,5% proc rate which thanks to our ability's using this can proc 3-4 times higher than description if you willing to spam your abilities much more. It scale with Spell damage and you can feel this by using Flask of Supreme power+Greater arcane elixir , it also increase it's crit chance by your spell crit or intellect and it scale much higher dps than HoJ .

HoJ and Maelstrom work in same way , only difference is that one would get increase by attack power while the other will get increase by spell damage.

Keep in mind that if you willing to compare both , the more proc chance and damage increase will be Maelstrom if you use Intellect gear (paladin Sets) that grant you enough mana to spam your Abilities on CD.

Meanwhile HoJ if use the similar way it will have huge nerf due to Attack Power reduce or if you do the opposite (non intellect gear) you will not be able to spam your abilities on CD which will reduce the proc rate of this trinket.
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by Etecc » Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:37 pm

So what is your recommendation? what 2 trinkets should I wear?

I got 26% crit and stackin Spelldmg (Edit)
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by smilkovpetko » Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:51 pm

Etecc wrote:So what is your recommendation? what 2 trinkets should I wear?

I got 26% crit and stackin Spelldmg (Edit)


26% crit unbuffed or buffed?

if you have this % crit unbuffed go maelstrom+hoj (if some bosses immune to nature) switch to crit+hoj.
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by smilkovpetko » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:12 am

Imbaslap wrote:
Theloras wrote:thanks to Duki for adding this one to the bug report - which really affects Prot Paladins badly seeing as we don't have a taunt in Vanilla:

Crowd Control Target Build Aggro on Healer
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=3585

Currently in Nostalrius : Healers rgain high amount of threats toward crowd controlled targets.

How it suppose to work : The mob keep the aggro before he got crowd controlled and will aggro only those who break using offensive abilities or will attack current crowd controller.

post it on the main support page. this isn't just for pallies, but a general server issue.


You gotta see the answer by Nano for this and i mean that. ... How clueless Isvv this server have ..

https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=3585

And i mean that , not that my reports are bad or poor that i bring all such evidences or some sort of information but , not in 100 years i would think of this is a case "difference between TBC and Vanilla" regarding Crowd Control. ....


Whatever float their boats , this is their server and i have to admit my mistake of even trying at all , but this server will never ever be Blizzlike , not even close to Blizzlike .
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by Etecc » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:23 am

Are you ignoring the fact that Maelstrom apperently has a low proc rate also due to the non existant SOC Delay?

Whats your opinion on Zandalarian HC?
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by smilkovpetko » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:47 am

Etecc wrote:Are you ignoring the fact that Maelstrom apperently has a low proc rate also due to the non existant SOC Delay?

Whats your opinion on Zandalarian HC?


I am not ignoring , but Maelstrom and HoJ benefit the same way from Command . Which mean both of them has low proc rate due to the non existant SOC Delay.

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 84#p227020

HoJ and Maelstrom work in same way , only difference is that one would get increase by attack power while the other will get increase by spell damage.


Regarding Zandalarian HC i already said on my 1st post.
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by Theloras » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:48 am

smilkovpetko wrote:
Etecc wrote:Are you ignoring the fact that Maelstrom apperently has a low proc rate also due to the non existant SOC Delay?

Whats your opinion on Zandalarian HC?


I am not ignoring , but Maelstrom and HoJ benefit the same way from Command . Which mean both of them has low proc rate due to the non existant SOC Delay.

Regarding Zandalarian HC i already said on my 1st post.


HoJ can be used on all mobs in MC and BWL though compared to Maelstrom and/or Heart of Wyrmthalak - that's the difference.
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by smilkovpetko » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:51 am

Theloras wrote:
smilkovpetko wrote:
Etecc wrote:Are you ignoring the fact that Maelstrom apperently has a low proc rate also due to the non existant SOC Delay?

Whats your opinion on Zandalarian HC?


I am not ignoring , but Maelstrom and HoJ benefit the same way from Command . Which mean both of them has low proc rate due to the non existant SOC Delay.

Regarding Zandalarian HC i already said on my 1st post.


HoJ can be used on all mobs in MC and BWL though compared to Maelstrom and/or Heart of Wyrmthalak - that's the difference.


That's what i already answered .

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 00#p227059

if you have this % crit unbuffed go maelstrom+hoj (if some bosses immune to nature) switch to crit+hoj.
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by Etecc » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:19 am

So many options :D

man ill just go with BB and HOJ and TRY the maelstrom since its cheap. This is madness. :cry:
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Re: Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by Theloras » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:28 am

Etecc wrote:So many options :D

man ill just go with BB and HOJ and TRY the maelstrom since its cheap. This is madness. :cry:


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