Retribution Paladin bugs here on Nostalrius

by **Rakesh** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:01 pm

Heads up for The Holy Resistance in PVP :lol:

(R1 HoW cuz ooOm)

by **Theloras** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:15 pm

Rakesh wrote:Heads up for The Holy Resistance in PVP

(R1 HoW cuz ooOm)

yea, that ain't right

Website · by **smilkovpetko** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:05 pm

Nano have Confirm something which is not bug

https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=3602

Where the Video that himself posted in another Report just disqualify Nano's Confirmation

Here is the Video That he himself posted (in french language) regarding Seal of Command

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovhRqAxnXqg

This clearly shows that the person does Dodge/Parry with Seal of Command and Nano just Confirmed this Bug as Bug instead Invalid.

Meanwhile he completely avoid in this Bug
my full detailed explanation how does "Holy Resistance" should work in our abilities by posting the same video which disqualify his confirmation to Seal of Command report.,

https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=3660

Here is the detail Explanation how it suppose to work Holy Resistance :

from report : https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=2871

Thank you for your reply Fenrir i appreciate your answer and cooperation regarding this.

1st i was mistaken on some parts and on some parts i was semi correct .

Let me explain you what i have found trough investigating this issue over 2 weeks :

http://web.archive.org/web/200511240144 ... ances.html

Basic (partial and non partial) resistance explained by Blizzard in November 2005

how it work resistance with details by wowwiki

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Resistance?oldid=348601
Revision as of 16:02, November 30, 2006

explanation by wowwiki regarding partial resists

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Formulas: ... did=180372
Revision as of 01:02, July 7, 2006

Why is it called "average resistance?"
For spells that have a non-damage effect such as slow, root, stun and the like, you'll either totally take the hit or totally avoid the hit.

The average resistance is the chance you'll totally avoid the hit.
Adding the word "average" is a little redundant in this case.

How does Partial Resist work explained by elitistjerks

http://forums.elitistjerks.com/forums/t ... -since-19/
Posted 14 Apr 2006

Wodin:

A fun new toy from the rogue forums.
I don't want to direct-link the mod because it's not my bandwidth, but a nice, bored CS student learned enough of the UI code to parse for glancing blows.
The results on level 63 mobs are very depressing. On the upside, Death's Sting is looking better.

Sykotik:

I believe partial resists on Seal of Command come from the combat log misinterpreting glancing blows. Although Seal of Command damage is holy based, it follows all melee rules and thus you would encounter some glancing blows(or partial resist in your combat log).In terms of Judgement of Command, then yes, I believe there are level based resists but no base resist(evident through the auto re-judge sloppy coding).

jozik:

I've been testing -resist items and i figured some stuff out about partial resists:
To save you all from reading:

- Appearantly higher level mobs(60+) have some base chance to partialy resist your spells even if they have 0 resistances. For boss level mobs its around 5% damage lost to partial resists.

Damien :

I got a partial Holy resist tonight. Didn't think that was possible.
(It was on a lava surger, FYI).

Edit: Oh, that backs up this:

Quote
To save you all from reading:
- Appearantly higher level mobs(60+) have some base chance to partialy resist your spells even if they have 0 resistances. For boss level mobs its around 5% damage lost to partial resists.

Lurchington:

I've had several partial resists on holy damage against mobs 2-3 levels above me. I thought that was common. Although I was only smiting since 1.10 which is after this change.
My metric for partial resists are when a spell that hits for 400 base damage randomly hits for like 150 and shows as much in my hitsmode.

Conclusion by Duki reading all those websites and comments : (also education for Nano)

Holy Spells can't and should never "Full Resist" with exception of "Melee Hit rules for Judgement of Command" (instead dodge/parry miss it should do resist)

Partial Resist should exist in such amount of following the level and spell cast rules

Example :

Seal of Command and Judgement of Command should follow the rule by "Glancing Blows" , so the resist you see from this Ability should be the damage reduction from "Glancing Blows"

Judgement of Command should follow the rule of Melee Hit Rating and should Resist instead Dodge/Parry/Miss.

Seal of Righteousnes should not be affected by any resistance since this Ability can't be resisted , mitigated or reduced.

Hammer of Wrath should follow the rule by "Range Abilities" like "Hunter Range Damage"

Holy Shield , Blessing of Sanctuary , Holy Wraith , Consecration follow the rule by "Return Damage" and not "Direct Damage"

Exorcism , Judgement of Righteousness and Holy Shock does follow the rule of "instant" "Partial Resist" and have 5% Damage Resist toward Boss targets.

Smite , Holy Fire does follow the rule of "casting" "Partial Resist" explained to the formulas and work same as "mage fireball" abilty.

(For example Chromaggos and Draconoids) when they get "High Resistant" to other spells should Affect Holy Spells

Seal of Command ,Judgement of Command , Seal of Righteousness , Blessing of Sanctuary , Holy Shield , Consecration which are not following the rule of "Casting" and "Direct Spell Damage" Abilities should not be affected by Boss "High Resistance" .

"High Resistant" "Partial Resist" should only be affected by : "Judgement of Righteousness" , "Exorcism" , "Holy Fire" , "Smite" .

In 1 word : Partial Resist should exist according to explained rules , but Full Resist should never exist since there is no "Holy" stat to the elemental Schools with exception of Judgement of Command.

Cheers Fenrir i hope you read my detailed TL:DR and i hope you will answer regarding this , Thank you for your cooperation <3

We have the most clueless isvv leader in server sadly. There is no point anyone to bother with Modify server which never will be Blizzlike and isvv team just do bugs in their own "self knowledge" version instead evidences posted.

I like the way how Fenrir and Link work and cooperate but Nano as long as he is Leader all our Bugs will remain Bugs and never Blizzlike because Nano instant invalid and never accept to cooperate and talk with us how our abilities work in which way. Where he have no clue how our abilities work at all.

by **DrearyYew** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:50 pm

I may disagree with you on a lot of things Duki, but you're definitely right on this one.

This holy resistance bug is going to be a major problem if it isn't resolved soon, especially by AQ, as Ret DPS becomes viable in AQ, and competitive in Naxx. It would be an immense pain to have to use a piece of Spell Penetration gear.

It just seems like the devs are hellbent on making Ret worse than it already is. Yes, Ret in retail vanilla was pretty bad, but only because people didn't know how to gear themselves, and Blizzard didn't give them the right gear to actually DPS until AQ. We have knowledge that retail vanilla players didn't have, and we have 1.12.1 spells and talents. Ret is completely viable, maybe not competitive, but definitely viable. These devs need to stop sippin on the "lolret" juice and fix this shit.

by **Theloras** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:16 pm

At least this one finally got confirmed - albeit it's for PvP Reck spec Paladins only:

NBT #3622 Reflective Damage is activating Auto-Attack prematurely and removing Reckoning charges as a result
Nano (nano)19 hours ago
Status changed from New to Confirmed
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=3622

by **Theloras** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:32 pm

So this just made me laugh...

Hunter list of bugs - the most bugged class on the server.
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=6692&p=238393#p56163

And then I thought, "Oh how cute!"

by **Theloras** » Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:59 am

Reck Bomb Paladins rejoice - the bug below appears to have been fixed:

Reflective Damage is activating Auto-Attack prematurely and removing Reckoning charges as a result
https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=3622