How will Ret Pallies justify their raid spot?

[Theloras]

That is a pvp reckoning spec however and actually would hurt the raid more then benefiting it as you would be gimping your dps to a large extent.

the only thing you are picking up from deep prot beneficial to the raid is kings and guardian favour the and in reality most holy paladins include kings within their spec making that point spent arbitrary, while you can still pick up guardian favor through an actual retribution spec.

Also given a ret paladins staple for damage is to keep vengeance rolling you end up nerfing your overall dps through that spec.

If you are going to raid ret you should be aiming to do as high damage as possible while maintaining nightfall and minimising your consumed debuff slots on the intended target.

liez, it's our job and the other 5 Ret Paladins to have all 6 ranks of Judgement of the Crusader up!!!

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=25589

[Holystrike]

That is a pvp reckoning spec however and actually would hurt the raid more then benefiting it as you would be gimping your dps to a large extent.

the only thing you are picking up from deep prot beneficial to the raid is kings and guardian favour the and in reality most holy paladins include kings within their spec making that point spent arbitrary, while you can still pick up guardian favor through an actual retribution spec.

Also given a ret paladins staple for damage is to keep vengeance rolling you end up nerfing your overall dps through that spec.

If you are going to raid ret you should be aiming to do as high damage as possible while maintaining nightfall and minimising your consumed debuff slots on the intended target.

liez, it's our job and the other 5 Ret Paladins to have all 6 ranks of Judgement of the Crusader up!!!

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=25589

gief this raid setup please im drooling!
Just very hard to convince a guild of this ^^

[Theloras]

That is a pvp reckoning spec however and actually would hurt the raid more then benefiting it as you would be gimping your dps to a large extent.

the only thing you are picking up from deep prot beneficial to the raid is kings and guardian favour the and in reality most holy paladins include kings within their spec making that point spent arbitrary, while you can still pick up guardian favor through an actual retribution spec.

Also given a ret paladins staple for damage is to keep vengeance rolling you end up nerfing your overall dps through that spec.

If you are going to raid ret you should be aiming to do as high damage as possible while maintaining nightfall and minimising your consumed debuff slots on the intended target.

liez, it's our job and the other 5 Ret Paladins to have all 6 ranks of Judgement of the Crusader up!!!

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=25589

gief this raid setup please im drooling!

with nothing but smite priests for caster dps and a Ret in each group for Sanctity Aura!

[Holystrike]

hell yeah! that would be the life <3 theloras

[Theloras]

hell yeah! that would be the life <3 theloras

imagine the holy dmg AoE potential with that many Consecrations and Holy Novas!

provided Nost fixes AoE taking up debuff slots...

[Holystrike]

hell yeah! that would be the life <3 theloras

imagine the holy dmg AoE potential with that many Consecrations and Holy Novas!

provided Nost fixes AoE taking up debuff slots...

I actually already made a post about that a long time ago, they rejected it based on some random post someone put on like a completely unknown forum saying that they may possibly consume debuff slots it was the least concrete bug report rejection ive ever seen

EDIT: Its just hard to prove a mechanic which never existed such as invisible debuff slots for aoes, didnt actually exist

[JCarrill0]

That is a pvp reckoning spec however and actually would hurt the raid more then benefiting it as you would be gimping your dps to a large extent.

25/26 Ret spec (to show you you dont need 5/5 Veng to be ret )

Jokes aside here

you missed the next line so I made it bold.

[Holystrike]

i dont get it, its a pvp build theres no joking here

[JCarrill0]

i dont get it, its a pvp build theres no joking here

because you didn't read the post fully, /facepalm
Just forget it man, you took one line out of my whole post too serious, when it was only meant to just showing a spec without 5/5 veng. Yes I am aware of the reckbomb pvp spec, thats why I was joking, because:

a "Ret Pally" is any Pally with 5/5 Vengeance.

[Holystrike]

oh haha, then i failed there my bad /facepalm /sorry haha just saw a spec posted in the raid thread and assumed

and yes you are correct reck bomb is a hybrid ret proc spec