Darkwinjax wrote:are you seriously giving me the "enjoy the game" talk?
ofc you can clear all content as a ret pala.
ofc you can clear naxx with only ret palas as dmg dealers.
are you going to be doing DPS? No, because realisticly comparing your damage to other classes you will be left behind.
there is a reason all good guilds have 0 ret palas, they simply bring nothing to the table and they are shit dps wise even with BiS gear.
I even enjoy ret paladins and I think the spec must fun to play with some gear and there is potencial for some pvp abuse (repentence specced, forget about reckoning since that's a garbage gimmick spec) too bad most paladins are 15 year old kids living their vanilla fantasy to learn how to play the game correctly.
by all means go clear full content as ret, I don't mind, just don't say you can dps, the class has no place in top / hardcore guilds and it's not the only one, unfortunatly this is vanilla and not all specs are viable some classes have roles they fill out better than others and were designed to execute those roles in a raid environment.
and btw concecration is doing WAY MORE damage than it should for current gear levels don't just discard that under the table, if it were to be fixed you could expect a bige drop on the alrdy low paladin dps.
are you seriously giving me the "enjoy the game" talk?
too bad most darkwinjax's are 15 year old kids living their vanilla fantasy to learn how to play the game correctly.
are you going to be doing DPS? No, because realisticly comparing your damage to other classes you will be left behind.
ofc you can clear all content as a ret pala.
ofc you can clear naxx with only ret palas as dmg dealers.
there is a reason all good guilds have 0 ret palas,
That is a choice , no other reason except their own choice.
they simply bring nothing to the table and they are shit dps wise even with BiS gear.
Only because this is your opinion doesn't matter that this is true , which is not true.
Paladins are best in AoE and Undead fights which consist many bosses .
Their dps is not shit at all , 700 DPS in current patch in all those bugged abilities is beyond normal .
The normal requirement for each raid boss in current patch is 300 dps .
there is potencial for some pvp abuse (repentence specced, forget about reckoning since that's a garbage gimmick spec)
This is not abuse , Repentance is part of the build and part of the game similar like mages have sheep etc.
by all means go clear full content as ret, I don't mind,
If you don't mind you wouldn't even respond on this thread .
just don't say you can dps, the class has no place in top / hardcore guilds and it's not the only one,
700 DPS is good DPS like it or not evidence is there.
unfortunatly this is vanilla and not all specs are viable
Everything is viable if you know how to play it .
some classes have roles they fill out better than others and were designed to execute those roles in a raid environment.
If player know his class and role , regardless of the spec he will do the job same as any other "viable" spec/class.
The game itself is made to be Balanced , lack of knowledge and delusional people like you think that is not .
and btw concecration is doing WAY MORE damage than it should for current gear levels don't just discard that under the table, if it were to be fixed you could expect a bige drop on the alrdy low paladin dps.
40 damage per tick as maximum "WAY MORE" damage or 40 DPS at Max Rank , it is mana inefficient and in order to make this WAY MORE you need 17 k mana over duration of the fight.
40 DPS "WAY MORE" that get extremely lowered if you don't have 17k mana over 3 minutes fight is not even 10% close to our Bugged Abilities if they get fixed.
