Bugs

[eFFeRR]

So Crusader does more damage then it should and Command does less damage then it should.

Overall it's a fair trade off until they fix both.

I think the "net worth" is that SoC procs do abit more than it should when u have JotC on the mob.

I never came from Vanilla so I do not claim to know, but are Command procs supposed to be Dodged and Missed?. It seems they miss/get dodged more then they actually hit.. keeping Crusader up seems to provide better dps in both PvE/PvP.

[auk]

in my experience, command is only worth using if you judge crusader. otherwise seal of the crusasder adds more damage.

i think command damage is correct right now, it's just the coefficient is too high.

seal of the crusader doesn't subtract 40% of your damage as it should so it's dealing 40% more damage than it should which is quite high.

i think command can only miss and misses should read "resist" even though it's calculated from your melee hit.

[simppi]

So Crusader does more damage then it should and Command does less damage then it should.

Overall it's a fair trade off until they fix both.

I think the "net worth" is that SoC procs do abit more than it should when u have JotC on the mob.

I never came from Vanilla so I do not claim to know, but are Command procs supposed to be Dodged and Missed?. It seems they miss/get dodged more then they actually hit.. keeping Crusader up seems to provide better dps in both PvE/PvP.

Yes, it counts as a special attack so you need 8% hit. SotC is def more stable dps while lvling.

[Khazul]

seal of the crusader doesn't subtract 40% of your damage as it should so it's dealing 40% more damage than it should which is quite high.

The description of seal of the crusader reads

Fills the Paladin with the spirit of a crusader for 30 sec, granting X melee attack power. The Paladin also attacks 40% faster, but deals less damage with each attack.

It doesn't explicitly state that it should subtract 40%, just that it should deal "less damage". Where did you get the 40% from?

[auk]

that's how i remember the spell working. 40% attack speed and -40% damage for an even trade and then +attack power to ensure that it's a DPS increase but in reality it was never worth using for DPS.

[Hazkem]

IIRC did it not initially have full white damage from the bonus AP, with just 40% increased attack speed, and then scale down to -40% white damage over the duration of the buff?

[BigMcLargeHuge]

IIRC did it not initially have full white damage from the bonus AP, with just 40% increased attack speed, and then scale down to -40% white damage over the duration of the buff?

It definitely never worked like that. There was a flat decrease to damage per swing to balance out the increased AP and attack speed.

[NinnyMugginz]

is consecration working as intended? Gets bonus from +AP and level. Spamming cons is almost 1/3 my dps vs single target alone.

[simppi]

is consecration working as intended? Gets bonus from +AP and level. Spamming cons is almost 1/3 my dps vs single target alone.

No, r1 doesn't scale properly and do way too much dmg.

[Rince]

I believe SoC procs should be subject to physical attack checks. they should also crit for 2x and behave as physical attacks despite dealing holy damage.

Then you're wrong, SoC has never been dodge- or parryable in retail, they count as special attacks or w/e it's called (like mortal strike). But if you dont have enough hit%, it's the auto-attack, not the SoC proc, that doesn't hit.

SoC hit should be regulated by spellhit%, and should not be dodged or parried