How do i do tankadin?

Re: How do i do tankadin?

by Undertanker » Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:11 pm

Let me explain something about tank gear. (ignoring you highjacked an educational thread with ignorance).

I am a MT warrior. I only use 3/8 T1 gear. 8/8 T1 gives around 60 def. This is a 5 man tanking set only as the 8/8 gives more sunder threat. It is shit, and once the death bone -a 5 man blue OMG..... gets upgraded, I will be 1/8 T1 just for stam bracer, and 4/5 deathbone. The belt, and gloves have same stam as T1 and 2x the def.

My cloak, 5 man blue, trinket, onxyia turn in, and brd trinket (which is BiS aoe tanking which pally LOL at due to 25 damage reduction x how many mobs).

BRD ring when it gets upgraded, currently use don ring for tps, dark iron ring.

Next is a blue -OMG not again.... Neck. Medallion of grand mashal morris.

Shield, for def cap guess what, best shield in game til Chromag is a blue, deflector from ubrs.

MC has no MT raiding weapons. Brd blue legs have amazing def and were only replaced by T2. A pally with go deathbone here. Helm, golem helm is used, OMG a blue which i didnt replace till T2.

Your only attept to put up facts was gear availabilty and what is used for tanking. Prob is you came to a battle of wits unarmed.

Your second arguement wad because everybody else does something so that is the best way. Take that approach to economics, so the poor are doing it right cause there are more people living in dept than the 2%who are not?

Can I keep up with pally threat, no. My threat is limited and doesnt scale much with gear. Actually has a chance to go down due to avoidance means no rage, so no threat. A MT war uses 1.3 speed dager and raid buffed auto attack gives 3 rage.

Can I AOE tank better, no. I even have Rag damagw deflect trinket. Aoe packs are always lower level and do little damage, aoe is only thing that matters on those pulls.

Where do I excell? Oh shit buttons, better EH. Due to gear. I am the best role for the hardesy hitting mother fuckas in the game. Plain and simple.

I am currently gearing up 2 pallies in guild that will be aoe tanking certain fights, healing others.

Seeing your lack of knowledge in itemization, only purple > blue, you already showed your narrow mindedness gas is epic.
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Re: How do i do tankadin?

by Theloras » Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:21 pm

Ihealwpvp wrote:"I've answered it multiple times you moron - guild leaders do it because it's the easiest thing for them to do and min/max try hards like you want things to be easy."

im glad you conceded that paladins are an inferior main tank choice. this was my one point from the begining. im glad you agree and understand finally that warriors are the intended and superior choice for main tank.
im glad you understand now that paladin tanking is an uphill road and sub-par/non-optimal


hopefully the above sentences will not lead to more of your ignorant conjecture

"otherwise you have to face with their math and theory"

it is much simpler than this, it is the game's basic design.

if paladins were superior as you have been claiming, people would use them more than warriors. since they are not used more than warriors. they are the inferior choice. tank paladins are not needed for any fight. otherwise horde would not be able to do said fight.

your experience, opinions and screen shot collection does not trump the global 10+ years consensus of raid/guild leaders worldwide or the games programming.

as allways. play what you want. but don't spout nonsense and say paladins are superior main tanks to warriors. they aren't.


You edited out the second sentence in my previous statement in yet another example of intellectual dishonesty on your part:

"I've answered it multiple times you moron - guild leaders do it because it's the easiest thing for them to do and min/max try hards like you want things to be easy. There is no challenge to it seeing as both Tier 1 and Tier 2 gear for warriors is loaded with Defence stats up the ying yang."
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Re: How do i do tankadin?

by Theloras » Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:07 pm

Undertanker wrote:Let me explain something about tank gear. (ignoring you highjacked an educational thread with ignorance).

I am a MT warrior. I only use 3/8 T1 gear. 8/8 T1 gives around 60 def. This is a 5 man tanking set only as the 8/8 gives more sunder threat. It is shit, and once the death bone -a 5 man blue OMG..... gets upgraded, I will be 1/8 T1 just for stam bracer, and 4/5 deathbone. The belt, and gloves have same stam as T1 and 2x the def.

My cloak, 5 man blue, trinket, onxyia turn in, and brd trinket (which is BiS aoe tanking which pally LOL at due to 25 damage reduction x how many mobs).

BRD ring when it gets upgraded, currently use don ring for tps, dark iron ring.

Next is a blue -OMG not again.... Neck. Medallion of grand mashal morris.

Shield, for def cap guess what, best shield in game til Chromag is a blue, deflector from ubrs.

MC has no MT raiding weapons. Brd blue legs have amazing def and were only replaced by T2. A pally with go deathbone here. Helm, golem helm is used, OMG a blue which i didnt replace till T2.

Your only attept to put up facts was gear availabilty and what is used for tanking. Prob is you came to a battle of wits unarmed.

Your second arguement wad because everybody else does something so that is the best way. Take that approach to economics, so the poor are doing it right cause there are more people living in dept than the 2%who are not?

Can I keep up with pally threat, no. My threat is limited and doesnt scale much with gear. Actually has a chance to go down due to avoidance means no rage, so no threat. A MT war uses 1.3 speed dager and raid buffed auto attack gives 3 rage.

Can I AOE tank better, no. I even have Rag damagw deflect trinket. Aoe packs are always lower level and do little damage, aoe is only thing that matters on those pulls.

Where do I excell? Oh shit buttons, better EH. Due to gear. I am the best role for the hardesy hitting mother fuckas in the game. Plain and simple.

I am currently gearing up 2 pallies in guild that will be aoe tanking certain fights, healing others.

Seeing your lack of knowledge in itemization, only purple > blue, you already showed your narrow mindedness gas is epic.


+1337 to Undetanker

This guy gets it - best of luck to you and your guild's Paladins helping you tank, especially in BWL!

Cheers,

Theloras :)
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Re: How do i do tankadin?

by Ihealwpvp » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:06 am

yes he is correct. warriors are the supperior main tank
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Re: How do i do tankadin?

by Theloras » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:28 am

Ihealwpvp wrote:yes he is correct. warriors are the supperior main tank


hey fucktard - undertaker also said this about you in the other post you tried to derail:

"Do yourself a favor and scroll past anything Ihealwpvp says.

His post really are the worst ever.

You want to single target pally dps? Shockadin with blaze neck. Get that item and you can see your name in around 10th to 12th in Naxx on undead bosses."
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Re: How do i do tankadin?

by Ihealwpvp » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:27 am

warriors are chosen as the main tank for the majority of guilds - this is a fact, not an opinion.
warriors have the most tanking abilities in the game - this a fact
although its comparatively harder journey, paladins can tank all the content - this is a fact

a fact cannot be dis-proven by an an opinion or conjecture. which is what the prot paladins in this thread are attempting to do.

generalizing, warriors are the logical choice for a guilds main tank. paladins are a poorer choice.
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Re: How do i do tankadin?

by Gazpy » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:38 am

why not bis AoE tanking shield until some other sweetie http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=13375
you have tons of block as paladin so why not juice it all out.
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Re: How do i do tankadin?

by smilkovpetko » Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:49 pm

Gazpy wrote:why not bis AoE tanking shield until some other sweetie http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=13375
you have tons of block as paladin so why not juice it all out.


Everything is welcome to use , even this.

Force Reactive Shield work with spell damage and does lot more damage.

But i'd rather keep myself shield that will increase my Block Value (reduce damage taken) and survive + def + sta .
Aggro is no problem at all , neither the damage.

But this is my personal opinion only , nothing special. So you have a choices.
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Re: How do i do tankadin?

by Theloras » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:20 pm

Ihealwpvp wrote:warriors are chosen as the main tank for the majority of guilds - this is a fact, not an opinion.
warriors have the most tanking abilities in the game - this a fact
although its comparatively harder journey, paladins can tank all the content - this is a fact

a fact cannot be dis-proven by an an opinion or conjecture. which is what the prot paladins in this thread are attempting to do.

generalizing, warriors are the logical choice for a guilds main tank. paladins are a poorer choice.


Which you have ZERO, ZILCH, NUL, NO experience, yet claim to know everything....
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Re: How do i do tankadin?

by Theloras » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:25 pm

Gazpy wrote:why not bis AoE tanking shield until some other sweetie http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=13375
you have tons of block as paladin so why not juice it all out.


Yes, this works well for Prot Paladins - but as Killerduki pointed out - Force Reactive Disk with a good amount of spell dmg blows $hit up like a nuclear bomb - especially in large AoE packs or gauntlets.

The shield procs on EVERY block, scales with spell damage and then chains to all targets. It's like a mini Eye of C'Thun laser :)

Only drawback is that it has a 50% chance on every block to -1 durability so a good rule of thumb is to have a backup shield in your backpack lol
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