How do i do tankadin?

[Ihealwpvp]

theloras, a fact is a fact. it is not an opinion. you need to understand the difference. my experience and yours is irelevant in the face of a fact.

warriors are chosen as a main tank for the majority of guilds - this is a fact. not an opinion.

please google the difference between a fact and an opinion.

[Undertanker]

To finally bury this poor dead horse:

If boss hits hard or has spike damage phases - Warrior is best.

Aoe tanking - Pally is best.

Secondary Tank threat generation - Pally is best.

Boss who does majority of spell damage and hits are weak -Bear is best.

Boss who Crowd Control main tank - Bear is best.

It is that simple.

[smilkovpetko]

To finally bury this poor dead horse:

If boss hits hard or has spike damage phases - Warrior is best.

Aoe tanking - Pally is best.

Secondary Tank threat generation - Pally is best.

Boss who does majority of spell damage and hits are weak -Bear is best.

Boss who Crowd Control main tank - Bear is best.

It is that simple.

10 years playing this game , and damn 1st time in my life i hear someone think the same way as i do.

No matter what is best for their roles too - they can still do the job of others.

[Ihealwpvp]

smilkovpetko - you stated paladins are superior main tanks to warriors. this is false.

Do not spread misinformation and state paladins are a superior main tank choice to warriors.

warriors are chosen as the main tank for the majority of guilds - this is fact, not my oppinion.

there is a simple logical reason why guild leaders choose a warrior as their main tank.
they are the best at the main tank role.

[Theloras]

smilkovpetko - you stated paladins are superior main tanks to warriors. this is false.

Do not spread misinformation and state paladins are a superior main tank choice to warriors.

warriors are chosen as the main tank for the majority of guilds - this is fact, not my oppinion.

there is a simple logical reason why guild leaders choose a warrior as their main tank.
they are the best at the main tank role.

Incorrect - they are merely the easiest to gear up given the Tier gear available.

[Theloras]

To finally bury this poor dead horse:

If boss hits hard or has spike damage phases - Warrior is best.

Aoe tanking - Pally is best.

Secondary Tank threat generation - Pally is best.

Boss who does majority of spell damage and hits are weak -Bear is best.

Boss who Crowd Control main tank - Bear is best.

It is that simple.

Again, Undertanker gets it

[Ihealwpvp]

theloras, if paladins were supperior. people would use them as their main tanks. Guild leaders choose warrior tanks for a reason. they are the best. warriors literally have the most tanking abilities in the game, and the best gear for it.

if paladins were superior, then over infinite time, people would eventually replace their warriors with them as the paladins caught up in gear (after prot war progressed ), but again over infinite time (its been about 12 years since wow was released) people will pick the optimal choice. and people/guild leaders pick warriors.

verily without vitriol:
this is tangential again. but you seem to lack a basic competency in logic/philosophy. so i will explain something epistemic to you, it may help you out of wow/irl as well.

someone can state a fact of a topic without any experience of said topic. some examples.

*** a high school chemistry teacher can state a fact about chemical reactions that they have no experience handling. that doesnt invalidate the fact.

** i have no experience being a president of the united states, but i can state the fact that the president of the united states has a very long work day/week and has to travel frequently.

** you (im assuming) have no experience being a sumo wrestler in japan, but you can state the fact that a sumo wrestler needs to eat high calorie food constantly to maintain mass.

** i have never been to the indus valley region, but i can state the fact that it was birth place of the people of india.

*** i have never played Warlords of Draenor, but i can sate the fact that @ lvl 58 paladins learn Sanctity of Battle

facts can be repeated by people regardless of their breadth of knowledge or depth of experience on the topic, this doesn't invalidate the fact. This is one of the basic tenants of test taking in school/academia.

when someone states a fact. it is not their opinion. its still a fact.

even though i have limited experience playing a tanking paladin endgame (i've done 5 mans) i can still state the fact that paladin tanks are inferior to warrior tanks as a main tank for a guild. this doesnt make it my oppinion.

warriors are chosen as the main tank for guilds predominately more than paladins - this again is fact. not my opinion. you know this as well. everyone knows this.

when people state a fact, they are not claiming it as their own discovered science/original research. thats not what a fact is.

also. you constantly rebute with conjecture. conjecture has zero weight in discussion. i will paste the definition of conjecture from google for you

-- an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

again, i say this with no vitriol - so do not interpret it that way.

[Jacht]

Y'all need to relax, lol.

Warriors are better main tanks. Period. They scale better with gear than a pally does. Early on, a pally has much more shield block. Once the warrior catches up in that stat, and they will with gear, it's no contest. Warriors have no mana and can tank for an infinite amount of time at their full threat potential. They can also taunt, which is useful on some bosses.

Paladins AOE tank much better than warriors. They can also off-tank and MT if called upon (for most fights) but they are in no way superior to warriors.

And in reality, to make Iit work at all, you are popping a good 200-300 gold a raid (not including flask). That is not possible for people that have full time jobs on a true vanilla server unless the guild throws gold at them.

I tanked as a pally for about a year on ED. His name is Czernobog. He's pretty much BIS through BWL besides trinket.

Prot's are really good at what they do. There is no need to force them into doing things that warriors are flat out better at. You can be useful in your own role.

Now, let's all be friends?

[Gergoth]

Ihealwpvp just dont like paladins. He is here on almost every thread telling people how paladins are worse dps and tanks. He is repeating the same things over and over. Telling everyone the facts how leaders only want holy paladins.
Do not listen to this attention whore. He has proven that he is also a bot repeating the same bullshit over and over. Just ignore him.
He doesn't belong here.

[smilkovpetko]

Y'all need to relax, lol.

Warriors are better main tanks. Period. They scale better with gear than a pally does. Early on, a pally has much more shield block. Once the warrior catches up in that stat, and they will with gear, it's no contest. Warriors have no mana and can tank for an infinite amount of time at their full threat potential. They can also taunt, which is useful on some bosses.

Paladins AOE tank much better than warriors. They can also off-tank and MT if called upon (for most fights) but they are in no way superior to warriors.

And in reality, to make Iit work at all, you are popping a good 200-300 gold a raid (not including flask). That is not possible for people that have full time jobs on a true vanilla server unless the guild throws gold at them.

I tanked as a pally for about a year on ED. His name is Czernobog. He's pretty much BIS through BWL besides trinket.

Prot's are really good at what they do. There is no need to force them into doing things that warriors are flat out better at. You can be useful in your own role.

Now, let's all be friends?

They scale better with gear than a pally does.

You can't say that warriors scale better with gear than paladin because we don't use tier compare to them who are chasing the tier sets .
In fact Paladins get much easier gear than the warrior since they are in high competition.

Early on, a pally has much more shield block.

Not true at all , we might have Block % but not enough Block Value , Warriors win us at early raids due to their Block % ability.
What we benefit is at very end is "Block Value" and more Procs .

There is difference between "Block Value" and "Block Rate" . They have higher Block Rate on few hits but we have high Block Rate on many hits.

Block Value at beginning we are too low since there is no "Block Value Gear" and low "Strength" , But at High end we win because of the "Stats" amount and trinkets/shield combine with 30% increased by Talents.


Once the warrior catches up in that stat, and they will with gear, it's no contest.

They win nothing more than just some extra Stamina .

Their high end gear fills their block value which they are missing and are lower than Paladins , but Paladins win on "Avoidance" compare to their "Mitigation" .

The high end Warrior benefit mostly from some extra Stamina. Period.


Warriors have no mana and can tank for an infinite amount of time at their full threat potential.

Warriors can Tank but their Threat will so low compare to Paladins.
If Paladin use Spell Damage Weapon+sp ench+sp consumes = Warriors will be history on Aggro nowhere near Paladins for infinite time.

I tanked as a pally for about a year on ED. His name is Czernobog. He's pretty much BIS through BWL besides trinket.

I have Tanked everything including Naxx in wsg . Killerduki

There is no need to force them into doing things that warriors are flat out better at.

I have already made list where Paladins are Flat out better than Warriors.

Garr = Single Paladin Maintank can do the job of 4 Warrior Tanks and 4 Warlocks combined.
Sulfuron Harbinger = Single Paladin Maintank can do the job of 3 Warrior Tanks.
Ouro = Single Paladin Can AOE all Trash and Tank the Boss at same time.
The Prophet Skeram = Paladin can Solo Tank Boss together with his Clones.
Broodlord = Where this is Warriors Main Aggro Issue , Paladin is doing 3 times more Aggro and Damage Dealers don't have to wait at all.
Neffarian = Paladin's don't need Berserker Stance and Holy Damage can still increase Aggro when Boss use Paladin Class Call.
Thaddius = Paladin increases it's Melee and Spell at a same time with the debuffs, this affect extremely his Threats compare to Poor Warriors so Damage Dealers can go crazy nuking.
C'thun = Paladin Can Tank the Claws at p3 and Heal at same time.
Kel'Thuzad = Exorcism is the best "Taunt" anytime when boss does his Mindcontrol and wipe out everyone's aggro, Meanwhile Warriors have enormous issue because Boss is immune to Taunt.
Onyxia = Aoe babys + immune to Taunt <3.

Marked the High End Bosses which are clearly most important.

I am up and enjoy to see people play Prot Paladin , i share everyones knowledge and i try to help everyone how to .

Sadly some sexy preachers like ihealwpvp telling us humour and telling us how horrible we are. Therefore he has 0 knowledge about it.