How will Ret Pallies justify their raid spot?

[Theloras]

Baron Geddon = Bubble and Full Nuke, 2x Fire Resistance Gear+Fire Resistance Aura = Full Nuke , Greater Fire Protection Potion = gg

This might lead to Holystrike accusing me of Fire Resistance Gear and Fire Resistance Protection Potion stat bug abuse stacking...

[smilkovpetko]

http://web.archive.org/web/200611102258 ... 1828&sid=1

08/25/2006 02:38:13 AM UTC

The most gear dependant class in the game, or the class that is made or broken most by the gear it is wearing, is the Warrior. But we’re second on that list! Remembering that keeping your weapon, armor, and even your trinkets up-to-date is critical to having a powerful character. Don’t go into a gunfight with a stick, and don’t run into an epic battle with a green. But which stats, you may ask, are most critical to a paladin and what do they all do?

[Softarunt]

yea keep telling yourself youll compete with warriors etc for top dps

[Theloras]

yea keep telling yourself youll compete with warriors etc for top dps

Neither Duki or I have ever said that we would be top dps (we are top DPS on any AoE tanking fight however compared to lol warrior AoE DPS/threat) - but saying that we are equally as gear dependant as warriors in order to dps is another thing entirely and valid to say.

[Softarunt]

I'd link you some raidstats from our feenix boss kills but according to duki they are invalid, which is of course a very ignorant thing to say. Yeah ret paladins were sadly neglected over on warsong etc but overall class/core mechanics were really good, especially the last year. It's also funny how you two hate feenix considering some of the bugs you are struggling with here actually got fixed over there. Probably the biggest that were still present at the time of feenix converting their 1.12 realms to tbc was SoC spellpower scaling and sanctity aura.

[Smiter]

Yeah, paladins can't keep up with "real" dps that's just how it is, even when you'll be able to use exorcism in naxx. At that point you'll still be behind warriors and warlocks cause they scale so well with gear.

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidO ... Raid=30009

Check out the individual bosses and that all ive got to say

[Smiter]

oh and how about this nef fight:

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 61&Fight=7

[Theloras]

It's also funny how you two hate feenix considering some of the bugs you are struggling with here actually got fixed over there.

Peenix is a $hitty server cuz Athairne is a fucking tool and did nothing but make the players leave en masse, including me. That piece of shit even banned me when I called him on how big of a tool he was and told him to go fuck himself, but that's beside the point in this thread.

The bugs that did get fixed over there, left gaping holes for others to cause us to have much lower than Blizzlike possible DPS. At least here on Nostalrius, we have other options that we can use instead (i.e. SotC instead of SoC).

TLDR - You can't compare the raidstats from Peenix to Nost due to the large bug disparity - that's what Duki is trying to tell you - and I agree with him since it's a night and day difference.

[Theloras]

oh and how about this nef fight:

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 61&Fight=7

lolret

[Imbaslap]

oh and how about this nef fight:

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 61&Fight=7

I have to admit, that number inflation from 20% adds are pretty huge for pally with a clutch holy wrath&holy water combo. I assume you bubble while you do it so you don't instagib.