Purge Seals

[kickshaw32]

I noticed in PVP today that Shamans could simply purge any seals you cast, rendering ret paladins absolutely useless. I played WoW since beta and played a ton of Vanilla. But as I recall they made seals unpurgable in 1.12.
I may be a patch early in assuming that, but I don't feel like it is natural to have seals purged on this patch. Any other feedback is welcomes. I would like this discussion so I may report it on the bug tracker if this is a bug.

[booleansphinx]

I noticed in PVP today that Shamans could simply purge any seals you cast, rendering ret paladins absolutely useless. I played WoW since beta and played a ton of Vanilla. But as I recall they made seals unpurgable in 1.12.
I may be a patch early in assuming that, but I don't feel like it is natural to have seals purged on this patch. Any other feedback is welcomes. I would like this discussion so I may report it on the bug tracker if this is a bug.

I don't even think Paladin seals were non-dispellable in TBC. If a Shaman or Priest is aggressively dispelling your seals, you have two options: spam Rank 1 Seal of Righteousness or spam Rank 1 Seal of Command.

If they are legitimately being ridiculous and spamming dispels non-stop, Rank 1 SoR is the way to go since it's 20 mana (SoC is 65). Your goal is to go defensive and watch them annihilate their mana pool.

If they are dispel-happy but not pulling the trigger for a few seconds after they see the seal animation you can use rank 1 SoC. I would really consider always using rank 1 SoC until you HoJ. It's just as good until you judge it and lots of fights in vanilla come down to mana bars.

Dispel Magic is very expensive. It's 18% of base mana, and unless Priests have drastically lower base mana than Paladins and Shamans that's close to 270 mana per cast. Purge is much cheaper at 10% (150ish).

If you get R1 SoC dispelled 6 times you lose 390 mana. A Priest loses 1620 and a Shaman loses 900.

[kickshaw32]

I noticed in PVP today that Shamans could simply purge any seals you cast, rendering ret paladins absolutely useless. I played WoW since beta and played a ton of Vanilla. But as I recall they made seals unpurgable in 1.12.
I may be a patch early in assuming that, but I don't feel like it is natural to have seals purged on this patch. Any other feedback is welcomes. I would like this discussion so I may report it on the bug tracker if this is a bug.

I don't even think Paladin seals were non-dispellable in TBC. If a Shaman or Priest is aggressively dispelling your seals, you have two options: spam Rank 1 Seal of Righteousness or spam Rank 1 Seal of Command.

If they are legitimately being ridiculous and spamming dispels non-stop, Rank 1 SoR is the way to go since it's 20 mana (SoC is 65). Your goal is to go defensive and watch them annihilate their mana pool.

If they are dispel-happy but not pulling the trigger for a few seconds after they see the seal animation you can use rank 1 SoC. I would really consider always using rank 1 SoC until you HoJ. It's just as good until you judge it and lots of fights in vanilla come down to mana bars.

Dispel Magic is very expensive. It's 18% of base mana, and unless Priests have drastically lower base mana than Paladins and Shamans that's close to 270 mana per cast. Purge is much cheaper at 10% (150ish).

If you get R1 SoC dispelled 6 times you lose 390 mana. A Priest loses 1620 and a Shaman loses 900.

Great post. Thank you.

[Theloras]

During TBC, Paladins had talents that increased the chance to prevent Seals from being dispelled and then when LK came out, they became completely undispelable across the board.

So as the other poster above said, rank 1 SoC is your friend

[Gazpy]

During TBC, Paladins had talents that increased the chance to prevent Seals from being dispelled and then when LK came out, they became completely undispelable across the board.

So as the other poster above said, rank 1 SoC is your friend

This, Remembering myself in lowbie WSG curious where my seals gone to.