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Alternate raid comp idea - Holy pallies using JoR

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:20 am
by Tyraeus
So I've taken a break from WoW and picked up FFXIV again, and one thing from that game got me thinking about this one - healer DPS.

In a "normal" raid comp. you have Holy pallies judging Light and Wisdom onto the boss, right? What if instead, they judged Righteousness? You'd then potentially have 3 Rets (one each for JotC, JoL and JoW) ensuring 100% uptime for the raid, all of whom benefit from JotC (and have non-gimped DPS), and the Holydins judging Righteousness for bonus damage (and also additional fun), which again, has synergy with JotC being up on the boss. I'd imagine they could actually do quite a lot of damage if they judged on every CD (or as close to it as possible).

That way, it's not just the lone Ret needing a debuff slot to themselves, you leverage some "hidden damage" from the healers and create a stackable thing. Also, no Holy resistance and bypassing armour = a really good reason to stack Holy damage if you can...

OFC the elitists and minmaxers will scoff, but I think it could be a really interesting idea to try as an alternate comp in a hybrid-friendly guild.

Re: Alternate raid comp idea - Holy pallies using JoR

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:08 pm
by smilkovpetko
i'd love to see real pve shockadin sometime .

http://realmplayers.com/Talents.aspx#sEVzMtotxhZxf0b

using that spec with d1/d2/t2/t2.5/naxx sets.

Re: Alternate raid comp idea - Holy pallies using JoR

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:23 pm
by DrearyYew
The problem with that talent spec is that getting the deep holy talents are too much of a dps loss to the deep ret talents.

Look up a Ret Ironfoe build and you will see what I mean. All you need out of Holy is Imp SoR. Holy Shock isn't worth the loss of Ret talents like melee crit and Sanctity Aura, and the 5% Holy Spell crit would only apply to Holy Shock. SoR can't crit and JoR crits based on Melee Crit.

Shock Ret is still viable in PvP and is quite strong, but it focuses on SoC (which scales with SP by 20% by the way) which is far superior in PvP settings over SoR. SoR would only do more DPS with a 1H weapon. SotC for 2H with faster than 3.6 Speed, and SoC with slower than 3.6 Speed.

Re: Alternate raid comp idea - Holy pallies using JoR

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:30 pm
by Theloras
All of this is a moot point at the moment seeing as though we have no gear with spell damage yet on Nostalrius

Re: Alternate raid comp idea - Holy pallies using JoR

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:12 pm
by smilkovpetko
hehe this was fun holyshock pve :P

nothing viable or something .

p.s we dont have yet spell damage (or we do still with weapon) but we gain lot intellect as something to encourage a little ^^ .