Paladin Ret on the Raiding Life

[Spluaks]

I never had a 60 paladin on vanilla, and I wonder if I can use a Ret Pally for Raiding on the new PvE Server, if Ret, doing less dps than others chars, can give enough support to the raid to be "viable" to have one Ret pally on the raid. I read some posts about the BiS pre raid with dungeons gear, or MC/ONY Gear but idk if is viable to have one on your raid and I don't wanna level one char to see after that I don't get any raid

[Kazarak]

Two raiding threads at the same time? Okay...

I think you'd be better off going Holy and healing or Prot and AoE tanking. Paladins are designed as a hybrid support class with great healing potential and the best AoE tanking in the game. Play to your strengths! You'll top the HPS charts from time to time but you'll never beat Rogues or Fury Warriors - or Mages or Warlocks or... - on the DPS charts.

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/BossList.aspx?realm=NRB

I know it's not raiding, but I was tanking Gnomer last night and I would top our DPS meter in every fight where we had multiple opponents. Consecration FTW!!!

[smilkovpetko]

I never had a 60 paladin on vanilla, and I wonder if I can use a Ret Pally for Raiding on the new PvE Server, if Ret, doing less dps than others chars, can give enough support to the raid to be "viable" to have one Ret pally on the raid. I read some posts about the BiS pre raid with dungeons gear, or MC/ONY Gear but idk if is viable to have one on your raid and I don't wanna level one char to see after that I don't get any raid

contact me in game for ret. i will help you out to improve maximum benefits and dps . but you should accept hard discipline for that using my advices.

/killerduki

and yes unfortunately you have to deal with denials unless you make own guild or friendly guilds as this spec is complex for many in pve, so they don't take the risk at all and you will always end as refused. .

[Spluaks]

I added you in game Killerduki

[Ihealwpvp]

what killerduki means is that you need to go tryhard to be ret dps in raids to pull any dps.

utlitmately ret is not a strong raiding spec. you are not desirable for any decent guilds, casual guilds may take 1 ret. You need a very high level of effort to do middle/bottom tier dps on ret, that same level of effort on any other class will net you more dps, and be more useful for raids. Mathmatically ret actually does the lowest dps out of all the melee dps classes-including cat druids and enhance.

prot paladins are rare for raiding guilds as well, they arent needed. maybe imp trash in MC or suppression room in bwl, but a holy pally /ret in tanking gear does the job fine. Prot paladins are not ideal end game raiding tanks. if you want the best experience end game tanking, its really only warrior.

ret isnt also the best pvp spec either, you can carry /throw more weight around as holy spec. and solo queing you are better off healing as well, a strong healer can carry a game easier than a strong dps can, and more importantly is much more desirable in premades.

ret is also bad for leveling, better off holy/prot for aoe grinding/tanking in 5 mans.

its really just a low-dps derp-burst spec. not good for much endgame @ 60 besides ganking.

[smilkovpetko]

what killerduki means is that you need to go tryhard to be ret dps in raids to pull any dps.

I would love to hear by spluaks how tryhard i told him to be in order to pull any dps
That will be awesome answer for Ihealwpvp too

[Ihealwpvp]

im just saying..... you need to go all out / half-asleep rest of raid to be middle of the pact dps on ret. That same level of tryhard effort on 6/8 of the other classes will do more dps.

ret is mathematically the lowest dps melee dps spec.

[smilkovpetko]

im just saying..... you need to go all out drinking your coffee to be middle of the pact dps on ret. That same level of drinking coffee effort on 6/8 of the other classes will do less dps on trash .

ret is mathematically the most complex melee dps spec so people like ihealwpvp have no clue how to play it.

Fixed for you

[Ihealwpvp]

your trolling is not constructive to the post.

Its not wrong, ret paladins are the lowest melee dps spec. and the 2nd lowest overall.

fury, rogue, cat druid, enhance all do more dps.

the only class ret can consistently out dps is shadow priests.

check realmplayers.com, even your own record dps is lower than 6/8 classes killerduki......

[smilkovpetko]

your trolling is not constructive to the post.

Its not wrong, ret paladins are the lowest melee dps spec. and the 2nd lowest overall.

fury, rogue, cat druid, enhance all do more dps.

the only class ret can consistently out dps is shadow priests.

check realmplayers.com, even your own record dps is lower than 6/8 classes killerduki......

your trolling is not constructive to the post.

Your false preaching is not constructive to all posts too but Threads getting destroyed anytime you start preaching without stop.

check realmplayers.com, even your own record dps is lower than 6/8 classes killerduki.....

In which 90% of the recorded fights i was Prot and not Retri.

This is how it look like always when i am Retri :

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