Is there a list showing which abilities scale with AP vs SP?

Is there a list showing which abilities scale with AP vs SP?

by Santana » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:23 am

Preferably with the percent coefficients included too?

Somewhat related: do Ret Paladins want SP or AP or a mix?
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Re: Is there a list showing which abilities scale with AP vs

by showtime » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:04 am

spell damage is the only thing that will increase judgement and it barley increases seal of command damage. 20% coefficient with sp and 29% for crusader debuff when that is fixed. it also increases cons damage and while ap increases cons too i think its debatable. no pre bc video shows people with cons doing a ton of dmg per tick but here it does cuz of ap scaling

overall you want gear that has both. i wouldnt go for sp items only if they have no strength on it. but i also wouldnt go for strength only items because i like having a mana pool and decent heals. right now pure strength and crit gear is op because of judgement of crusader but that is being fixed

and i wouldnt be suprised if normal spell damage didnt even increase seal of command damage at all on this server. its a common bug in classic servers and nostalrius has a lot of bugs ive seen on feenix

final note is just get str and crit gear until you can get some of the better gear that comes later like t2.5. soon t2 will have spell damage and strength but no agility or crit. still a nice set just use trinkets and rings with crit and the av weapon 2% crit. enchant gear with agility and after talents you could still have almost 20% crit id say. you start of with 65 agility so thats free crit right there
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Re: Is there a list showing which abilities scale with AP vs

by smilkovpetko » Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:40 pm

SoR should also work with AP but it's kinda "out of debate" . (0.022 * AP + 0.044 * SPH)

Consecration also should work with AP and is working proper in server.

Not sure about Command and Judge of Command .

About SP :

10% Seal of Righteousness with 1 handed weapon
12.5% Seal of Righteousness with 2 handed weapon
50% Judgement of Righteousness
20% Seal of Command
29% Seal of Command (only with +holy damage bonuses)
43% Judgement of Command
33% Consecration
43% Holy Shock
43% Hammer of Wrath
43% Exorcism
19% Holy Wrath
00% Blessing of Sanctuary ;;
20% Holy Shield (In debate if 5% or 20% ) .
00% Retribution Aura ;;
71% Holy Light
43% Flash of Light
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Re: Is there a list showing which abilities scale with AP vs

by Kazarak » Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:37 pm

You mean "AP:"? I thought everything was scaling off Attack Power..?
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Re: Is there a list showing which abilities scale with AP vs

by smilkovpetko » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:26 pm

Kazarak wrote:You mean "AP:"? I thought everything was scaling off Attack Power..?


i have noticed that some stuffs doesn't like SoR .
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Re: Is there a list showing which abilities scale with AP vs

by showtime » Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:22 am

smilkovpetko wrote:
Kazarak wrote:You mean "AP:"? I thought everything was scaling off Attack Power..?


i have noticed that some stuffs doesn't like SoR .


no sor never scales with ap .. you think your in woltk?

judgement never did either come on its just basic knowledge
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Re: Is there a list showing which abilities scale with AP vs

by smilkovpetko » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:23 am

showtime wrote:
smilkovpetko wrote:
Kazarak wrote:You mean "AP:"? I thought everything was scaling off Attack Power..?


i have noticed that some stuffs doesn't like SoR .


no sor never scales with ap .. you think your in woltk?

judgement never did either come on its just basic knowledge


If you clearly have read some patch notes you would notice something which is irrelevant

http://vanilla-wow.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_1.9.0

Patch 1.9.0

Seal of Righteousness - Now does holy damage on every swing. It can now proc correctly as well. The Judgement effect has been renamed "Judgement of Righteousness" to differentiate it from the Seal damage in the combat log.

How it was before?! without holy?!. What does that mean

i have already pointed "its questioned" since there is nothing to confirm yet. And nobody is working on it.
First of all the min/max damage each swing nobody mention in which this was working like that in retail vanilla.

In privacy server is flat damage which is completely incorrect .

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Seal_of_Righteousness_%28old%29

Seal of Righteousness deals additional Holy damage on every swing to a single target. This damage scales with spell power, attack power and weapon speed.

The Seal component does not crit, and can not be dodged, blocked or parried either, dealing steady and reliable Holy damage on each hit.
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Re: Is there a list showing which abilities scale with AP vs

by showtime » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:51 pm

because it didnt do holy damage on every swing instead was a chance

also your linking a seal from fucking woltk.. of course in woltk it scales with AP. look it even says 30 minutes on the seal thats woltk. hmm maybe we should have divine storm too it was in woltk
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Re: Is there a list showing which abilities scale with AP vs

by smilkovpetko » Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:28 pm

showtime wrote:because it didnt do holy damage on every swing instead was a chance

also your linking a seal from fucking woltk.. of course in woltk it scales with AP. look it even says 30 minutes on the seal thats woltk. hmm maybe we should have divine storm too it was in woltk


i didn't mention that would be exactly , but from the perspective that there is no investigation neither confirmation from tbc/vanilla it can't be correct since our SoR in Vanilla was min/max dmg each swing , unlike how it is flat damage each swing.

my point is that nobody bother to do investigation about it at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84OwHLAuQzc

many stuffs shows that work completely different than here including sor.
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