Going full frost while leveling?

[Polio]

As a frost mage you're going to want to get improved blizzard, and you're also going to use the strategy of
1) round up all enemies on foot or mount and get them very close to each other
2) frost nova then flames strike (works best if you also spec into ignite)
3) cone of cold as they get close to you
4) blizzard as they slowly walk near
Kite, repeat.

[potcorn]

This is your optimal deep-frost raiding spec and overall solid for everything you do, AoE farming, BGs etc. I'm using it also while leveling I got 31 points with 3/5 winters chill and then went arcane for the rest, at 59 and 60 I maxed my winters chill.
http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?tal ... 3132101051

If you want a more "fun-spec" and respec at 60 you can play this one, it's focused on killing single target mobs very quickly without them reaching you.
http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=1121 ... 3102151051

Or you can use this one and go full AoE, pull everything and blizzard it down, I do not suggest it if you are not an experienced mage tho.
http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=1121 ... 3132201301

No 5/5 Shatter? On a PVP server?

O-okay...

[Astixium]

This is your optimal deep-frost raiding spec and overall solid for everything you do, AoE farming, BGs etc. I'm using it also while leveling I got 31 points with 3/5 winters chill and then went arcane for the rest, at 59 and 60 I maxed my winters chill.
http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?tal ... 3132101051

If you want a more "fun-spec" and respec at 60 you can play this one, it's focused on killing single target mobs very quickly without them reaching you.
http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=1121 ... 3102151051

Or you can use this one and go full AoE, pull everything and blizzard it down, I do not suggest it if you are not an experienced mage tho.
http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=1121 ... 3132201301

No 5/5 Shatter? On a PVP server?

O-okay...

The second spec got 5/5 Shatter if you wanna roll that way, but shatter is farm from needed if you're looking to farm. You can get 60 with minimal PvP action if you only AoE farm your way there. I got to 60 with like 500kills and 300 of those where from low level bgs where you clearly don't need shatter.

[potcorn]

I got to 60 with like 500kills and 300 of those where from low level bgs where you clearly don't need shatter.

So, you got carried. Back to shatter vs. winterslol though:

10% chance to crit for 15s assuming you get five spells off, and not a 50% chance to crit a frozen target with one spell on a frost mage that freezes things. Anyone that picks this and doesn't logon only to raid needs to have their head examined.

[Astixium]

I got to 60 with like 500kills and 300 of those where from low level bgs where you clearly don't need shatter.

So, you got carried. Back to shatter vs. winterslol though:

10% chance to crit for 15s assuming you get five spells off, and not a 50% chance to crit a frozen target with one spell on a frost mage that freezes things. Anyone that picks this and doesn't logon only to raid needs to have their head examined.

I don't understand why you're getting all sassy over off-topic things and the thing that you don't seem to understand for some reason is that they are 3 different specs for 3 different things and none of them is a pure PvP spec, they are all for LEVELING, as the guy asked for a LEVELING spec and we both know that if you understand what you're doing while leveling you can get to 60 without a single kill. Also if you NEED shatter to be effective in BGs or world PvP you're clearly new on the whole mage thingy so you shouldn't write things that have nothing to do with the topic.

Have a nice day sir.

[Undertanker]

I am a frost fan. 3 points in arcane to allow your sheep spells to not get resisted.

If you want to AoE grind, dont put points into allowing your spells a chance to freeze a target, mobs starts toget spread out from this, making aoe farm less effective.

Shatter is amazing, you dont get much crit in frost and gear simply doesnt include it. Makes the named kill quest very easy when combo-ing cold snap.

As a frost mage, rank 1 frost bolt should be your friend. Almost instant cast with the cast time reduction. Nothing like a horde/alli running by you on a mount thinking they are safe when you quick cast it and the freeze procs.

Ice block is nice to have. Remeber this is about lvling. A lot of times you will save time traveling by jumping off this mountain or what not, ice block right before hitting the ground. Also clears DoTs n pvp. And helps when you aoe aggro in instances.

Long story short, 3/0/48 is viable through BWL, and really shines in AQ/ZG 20 when they are out. (but this is for a different thread)

[Koviko]

I was considering leveling as the basic PvP build, but the "fun" spec mentioned seems similarly viable. Is there any compelling reason to choose the PvP build over this "fun" build prior to 60?

[potcorn]

I don't understand.

No. You don't.

Also if you NEED shatter to be effective in BGs or world PvP you're clearly new on the whole mage thingy so you shouldn't write things that have nothing to do with the topic.

Hey, look guys: it's the classic "I KNOW ALL OF YOUR CHARACTERS ON EVERY SERVER, AND NONE IS [X] AND YOU'VE NEVER DONE [Y] OR [Z]" comeback. What next? Are you going to say that went to my high school too?

Keep the giggles coming.

[Fear3d]

Ice block is nice to have. Remeber this is about lvling. A lot of times you will save time traveling by jumping off this mountain or what not, ice block right before hitting the ground. Also clears DoTs n pvp. And helps when you aoe aggro in instances.

There's no need to waste a 5 minute cooldown for that. Just blink before you hit the ground.

[Fear3d]

I don't understand why you're getting all sassy over off-topic things and the thing that you don't seem to understand for some reason is that they are 3 different specs for 3 different things and none of them is a pure PvP spec, they are all for LEVELING, as the guy asked for a LEVELING spec and we both know that if you understand what you're doing while leveling you can get to 60 without a single kill. Also if you NEED shatter to be effective in BGs or world PvP you're clearly new on the whole mage thingy so you shouldn't write things that have nothing to do with the topic.

Have a nice day sir.

I don't think that he was really all that off topic. The topic is about a good leveling spec, and to my understanding, he was saying that when leveling on a pvp server, it is prudent to spec shatter. If anything, the raid spec that he was attacking is off topic, since the OP was asking about about a leveling spec and not a post-60 spec.

In any case, I agree that it's a wise move to spec shatter while leveling on this server. Do you *need* shatter to win in pvp? Not necessarily. You also don't necessarily *need* to wear gear to successfully pvp people as a mage, but it's still recommended.

Even if this was a pve server, I'd still spec shatter. Prior to level 60, shatter is infinitely more useful than Winter's Chill, so why would you need Winter's Chill in a leveling spec? Even at level 60 it might be wasted talent points, because only one mage per raid needs that talent.