[PvP] The BiS for the current content (updated for 1.8!)

[Breesy]

hehe

[Setup]

ZG Enchant (Primal Hakkari Idol) (leg/head)

ZG enchants don't use idols until 1.11.

Minor error.

[Lazermon]

Fixed.

[Dreez]

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=19929 ?

PvP set bonus is too strong

[Dreez]

shoulders and gloves
because you need the bloodvine boots with tailoring
// ringo's without tailoring

[sumail]

hmm wouldn't Bloodtinged Gloves + Mantle of the Blackwing Cabal + Cloak of the Brood Lord > Rank 10 Shoulders/gloves + Cloak of Consumption? edit nvm don't think its better

Also I think ringo's is better than bloodvine boots even with the 2% crit bonus.

[FiveWeeksOneMinute]

Assuming the OP is not yet changed for updated r12 and r13 pieces?

[Lazermon]

Assuming the OP is not yet changed for updated r12 and r13 pieces?

I could add the r13 helm to honorable mentions, thats about it. The set is very good, but in terms of pure damage, it's not the best available.

[sumail]

I know the BIS list assumes fully consumed but I was thinking Ringo's should be added to the honorable mention list since for certain situations it's better bloodvine boots with the 2% crit bonus. Here's my logic.

DMG = (0.83+hit)[(446.5+0.813*Sp)(1-crit)+(446.5+0.814*Sp)(2*crit)] = (0.83+hit)(446.5 + 0.814*Sp)(1+crit)

So for calculating crit -> Sp I equate increasing crit by 1% with increasing spell power by x amount.

(0.83+hit)(446.5 + 0.814*(Sp + x))(1+crit) = (0.83+hit)(446.5 + 0.814*Sp)(1+crit + 0.01)

The hit portion doesn't matter so we can cancel it out both sides and we end up with.

(446.5 + 0.814*(Sp + x)(1+crit) = (446.5 + 0.814*Sp)(1+crit + 0.01)

Then just solve for x and you get what adding 1% crit equals to in spell power.

x = 1/0.814*((1+crit+0.01)/(1+crit)(446.5 + 0.814*Sp) - 446.5) - Sp

Note: Sp = your spell power, crit = your crit %/100

So I used this and assumed if someone is flasking and have something close to full BIS they'll have like 750 spell power and probably 20% crit. For this situation x = 10.821 spell power.

So bloodvine boots give 19 sp + 2% crit = 40.642 spell power (41.37 if you include the extra int from bloodvine boots). Ringos gives 40 spell power so bloodvine in this case is slightly better.

However let's now see if we have 25% crit. In that case x = 10.388, so bloodvine gives 40.47 spell power. Basically 0.47 spell power better than Ringos. At around 28% crit Ringo's ends up giving more equivalent spell power than Bloodvine.

Now why I think Ringo's should be atleast added as an honorable mention is because if we take the flask assumption out it becomes better. For 600 spellpower and 20% crit x = 9.571, and Bloodvine boots essentially give 38.78 spell power. However the difference is quite small and won't really make a noticeable impact on your DPS. Basically I feel like Ringos should be treated more or less equal to bloodvine boots.

Anyway guys lemme know what you think or if you see any errors in my calculations/methodology.

[Pizzashoes]

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Just do partial derivatives of the damage equation with respect to spell power, crit, and hit.