Another thread requesting multiboxing clarification

[Aunstic]

[[ After reading over Viper's thread once more, I feel I should not continue this as it was indeed previously answered. Under PvE, a person cannot raid with one character and farm with another. If a person cannot be in an instance and have another character farm, it might be safe to assume raiding can be replaced by any form of PvE in this case. I guess I skimmed over this before creating the thread. Edited the OP to reflect this. This can still be deemed as acceptable behavior if a staff member replies though; however, I don't expect one on such a lengthy thread. ]]

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I might be searching all the wrong words and phrases, but I just wanted some insight on something that isn't technically multiboxing, but it is playing 2 accounts at one time... in different zones.

Dual screens help immensely with this, pic: http://i.imgur.com/WQxgx3b.png. I won't be needing alt-tab when I can hover over the window to bring it to focus/select the window.

Main: farming for gold in Silithus, WPL, and all other zones 50+.
Alt: leveling alone, mindlessly attacking mobs while reaching quest givers. Possibly grinding turtles.
In viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2812,

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Naturally there are some exceptions, alt-tabbing is allowed in some aspects, but NOT in these:
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In PvE:
Examples:
- Power leveling a character (I.e. using a higher level character to help the lower level one).
- Using multiple account to do a dungeon easier or help a raid.
- Doing a raid with one character, and farming with another one.


The only exceptions are non-simultaneous actions between characters i.e. banking, enchanting your alt, so on so forth.

There is no justification for having more than 2 accounts connected at a given time.

Just to clarify with the rules:

• Both characters are controlled by 1 person; no processes attached to WoW to automate movement, casting, etc.
• Both characters will remain in separate zones; exclusions will be in main cities for professions/trading or in the same zone to give a portal to a horde city.
• As my main is at the max level, only my alt will get experience.

As I'm currently not using a third party program or ruining a player's experience through this, I was wondering if this is considered as a non-simultaneous action as Viper stated. By the definition of "simultaneous", I am killing mobs simultaneously with different intentions -- one for farming gold and one for leveling.

Too long of a read?
Question: Am I allowed to level my alt while farming gold on my main in separate locations; no automated actions, no hotkeys between windows, etc. Alt will be autoattacking most mobs as that is what a warrior does in lower levels. I will be able to respond if a GM opens a discussion if I raise suspicion of bot-like actions (click-to-move, killing mobs in bot-attracted zones, etc).

[macgarthur]

Is one person playing more than one account? If so it's bannabke. Doesn't matter if you have dual monitors or alt-tab.

[Aunstic]

Is one person playing more than one account? If so it's bannabke. Doesn't matter if you have dual monitors or alt-tab.

Thanks for the reply, but Viper has stated the exceptions on playing more than one account at any given time.

Quoted in the OP from viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2812,

The only exceptions are non-simultaneous actions between characters i.e. banking, enchanting your alt, so on so forth.

The basis of my question is asking whether or not this is covered under Viper's non-simultaneous exceptions.

Reading over what Viper stated just now, I realize I would not be doing non-simulatenous actions between characters. To me, this could also mean operating both characters to perform a trade, enchant, or otherwise performing a task that requires player-to-player interactions ... i.e. both players acknowledge a trade; they are interacting with each other to complete the task of sending and receiving.

[Mimma]

I saw a variant of that explanation, saying that you can multibox, but only one of your characters can leave the main city. Unfortunately I can't find the relevant post

That leaves room for enchanting and banking, but not instancing, questing or honor farming.

(Strictly speaking, Stockades are in Stormwind, but .. let's not go there

[macgarthur]

There are rare exceptions like bank alts, etc. Are you planning on playing more than one account at the same time to gain XP, quest, do dungeons, PvP, etc? If so it's bannable.

They're extremely strict about this so if you're having any doubts you probably shouldn't do it.

[Armilus]

The easiest way to look at it is "Is this something you could do with one account?"

You can send mail instantly between characters on one account, so having 2 on and trading between them really isn't a big deal.

You can get anyone to enchant your gear for you, so you can definitely get your gear enchanted with a single account. If you happen to have the recipe on a second account, enchanting your own gear isn't a big deal.

You can't farm gold on one character while leveling a second character with a single account, so this is not allowed.

You CAN log out of one character in the middle of nowhere to log into a second character that has the UBRS key in order to open the door for a group. So leaving the first character logged in is not a big deal, as long as you don't continue to farm/level/whatever with it while using the other character.

[Aunstic]

I saw a variant of that explanation, saying that you can multibox, but only one of your characters can leave the main city. Unfortunately I can't find the relevant post

That leaves room for enchanting and banking, but not instancing, questing or honor farming.

(Strictly speaking, Stockades are in Stormwind, but .. let's not go there

I'm not entirely sure about that being correct. I know I'm allowed to make portals for my alt because it doesn't affect gameplay for anyone else at all. I do appreciate the information if this is true though. I have a feeling the parameters were changed in that person's thread though.

There are rare exceptions like bank alts, etc. Are you planning on playing more than one account at the same time to gain XP, quest, do dungeons, PvP, etc? If so it's bannable.

They're extremely strict about this so if you're having any doubts you probably shouldn't do it.

As stated above, I wouldn't have the characters in the same zone. I understand what is against the rules, but I don't understand if I'm able to play both characters in different zones only because there's no way for a GM to prove I am controlling both characters or if I have someone on the same IP either on my main or alt.

I understand the staff is strict about this. This is one of the reasons why I keep my main in the city to check the AH and have my alt grind just in case it isn't covered under Viper's exceptions. I'd rather not risk either character before I have a staff member shine some light on this before I do anything.

I appreciate you reinforcing what should be labeled as common sense ... even though some people don't think before they do something like this.

The easiest way to look at it is "Is this something you could do with one account?"

You can send mail instantly between characters on one account, so having 2 on and trading between them really isn't a big deal.

You can get anyone to enchant your gear for you, so you can definitely get your gear enchanted with a single account. If you happen to have the recipe on a second account, enchanting your own gear isn't a big deal.

You can't farm gold on one character while leveling a second character with a single account, so this is not allowed.

You CAN log out of one character in the middle of nowhere to log into a second character that has the UBRS key in order to open the door for a group. So leaving the first character logged in is not a big deal, as long as you don't continue to farm/level/whatever with it while using the other character.

I'm not sure what you mean by how I should look at this situation. I stated that my main and alt are on separate accounts, so I would hope you couldn't have more than 1 connection per account. Though, you are right. In order to play multiple characters, I need more than one account. As stated in my reply to macgarthur, how would a GM detect that I'm playing on the same machine with 2 instances of WoW open when it could be someone at my house playing on either of the characters. Again, I'm not trying to go against the rules here. I'm wondering if this is covered under Viper's alt-tabbing exceptions. One of my characters will remain in a city unless a staff member says this is allowed.

I understand mailing and trading aren't a big deal. I used this in an example in case Viper actually meant direct interaction between both players is allowed and everything else is disallowed. His examples were stating direct and indirect methods of interaction between both characters, but it didn't sound clear to me on the first and second time I read the sentence. Taking into account that Viper isn't a native English speaker and I have already over-analyzed his words, I would rather be safe than sorry after viewing a screenshot of a GM whispering "Pick which character you want to keep."

Even though I did not use enchanting as an example, I mentioned above that I don't know if the characters are only allowed to have interactions toward each other or if I'm allowed to alt-tab between windows that are not: helping each other (self-powerleveling), using a third party program attached to one or more of the windows (botting), doubling up on PvP/PvE with a third party program (multiboxing - PvP/PvE), etc.

[[ After reading over the Viper's thread once more, I feel I should not continue this as it was indeed previously answered. Under PvE, a person cannot raid with one character and farm with another. If a person cannot be in an instance and have another character farm, it might be safe to assume raiding can be replaced by any form of PvE in this case. I guess I skimmed over this before creating the thread. I'll edit the OP to reflect my view now. ]]

[Souldrinkah]

I'd ban you for spamming the forum with useless crap.