Guildleader quit playing

[Saxman]

Dear Sir or madam,

Since our Guildleader quit playing WOW Vanilla and did not transfer his GL-rights, we are somewhat in trouble.

We´d need some support to have those rights transfered to another active member.

Hope to get some help.

Sincerely

Saxman

[Zoey_Urbina]

The guild is owned by the creator/guild leader and should remain so even if he becomes inactive. Guilds today doesn't have a Guild bank, achievements or anything similar that gives it any value beside the name and reputation. You shouldn't have any trouble creating a new guild and bring over all active members to that guild.

[Saxman]

Well. Since we have the same guildname for almost 15-20 years in several pc games, we won't change it.
Would you?

[Zoey_Urbina]

Since the Guild Leader owns the Guild and the members doesn't have the right to gain ownership without his expressed permission, you basically have two choices. Also it doesn't matter as to why the Guild Leader is inactive, but there's always a chance of him coming back, he might be sick and unable to play or in the process of moving and doesn't have access to the Internet. Whether s/he is gone for days, weeks, months or even years doesn't matter since the ownership always remains with the Guild Leader.

• You can stay in the current guild and continue doing dungeons/pvp/raids without a Guild Leader. This way you can be in a Guild whose name is desired along with the reputation it brings.
• You leave and move over as many members as you can to the new Guild. Slowly but surely create a reputation for the Guild and its members. The Guild as a hole makes the reputation, not the Guild Leader. But the Guild Leader always retains ownership of the Guild.

[Saxman]

Thank you for your answer.
But i thunk you did not get our point.
Guildleader was contacted since he is well known in RL. Didn't know his password, so he tried a recovery for all uswd accounts on vanilla, which didn't work for the specific email.

Changing guild is no option.

But thanks anyway...

[Zoey_Urbina]

There was nothing referring that the Guild Leader had lost access to his account. Either way, the Guild Leader has to give the ownership to another member within the game, if he's unable to do so then there's nothing that can be done.

[Saxman]

actually, there is.. a Gm can easily change GL-rights.

[Zoey_Urbina]

Which they don't do nor should they. The Guild Leader owns the guild, therefore only he and he alone can change the ownership by logging in and stepping down.

[Saxman]

circling argumentation

does a not existing ceo still own a company?

[drmccollum]

Blizzard would actually promote the highest level active officer to guild leader when a guild leader was inactive for 30-90 days. They actually implemented an automatic system to do that in patch 4.3. It is blizzlike to remove inactive guild leaders. It's a major pain in the butt to move everyone over to a new guild.