Abuse of queue system

[Niko]

Greetings!
Dear forum trolls, I come in peace. I'm not actually mad, so trolling won't bite))


Now to be a bit more serious, this is to the devs and management.
I know you guys want to nurture the pug player, which is amazing and the pvp on this realm is actually better than any other as you have to actually fight battlegrounds where noone can really dodge efficiently to fuck the systems up.

There is room to allow pre arranged premade on premade action, which is amazing. On feenix when you tried to get a premade on premade, you would have to go through 5-6 pug games with long queues and still not even face a premade before people had to go (this happened several times during fight night).

Either way, I was wondering why this abuse of queue system is allowed to keep on going?
Alliance have the benefit of population to keep avoiding horde premades and still queue into pugs with full premades efficiently nullyfying the change that you added recently.

If you right click, open new tab you can clearly see that this is a full 10 man chinese premade.





So, two weeks ago there was a phenomenon with empty battlegrounds opening up and everyone free farming if you queued a 15 man premade, this however is now considered win trading as far as I've understood and an abuse of system mechanics punished for destroying the pvp. Then, why is the type of countdown-to-queue-premade still allowed? It's hollowing out the fix you added.

We can't really do this horde side as we always get pugs inbetween because of the huge population playing, so we can't fairly fight them any more.

Waiting for an answer with curiosity.

Regards,
Niko

[wedemboys]

I wish I could play them

instead I gotta watch Heello hit sheeps and all the other Wangs run around doing nothing.

[Niko]

Yeah, its hilariously fun when you queue 2-3man and get into these guys and prolong the fight for 20-30 minutes because they're uncapable of getting flag out vs you)

Then naturally the pug-factor with the general afkmid/afkbase rankers and useless pugs. Going versus another semi is fine, but versus a full chinamade that has five people on defense isn't working out.

[Niko]

Consider it done then, ball is now on your court.

[Ohr]

OT: Are those Luna Unit frames?

[Niko]

OT: Are those Luna Unit frames?

Yepp.

[Ohr]

OT: Thanks, I'll have to start using them for my UI.

ONT: This is bullshit. Favoring one faction due to whatever reason should not be allowed. Drop a banhammer on those peeps.

[Niko]

Basically, what it boils down to is that horde cannot queue with premade without getting a +30 min queue.

Alliance gets pug games with their full premades, even tho they might deny it and play the card saying that it's a luck of the draw that you get both groups in the same battleground (which you do 18/20 games), it's still an active call they decide to make.

It would be like, if we would agree with an alliance premade that we let them win one game, they let us win another and we instant queue against each other -- we would end up getting banned because we would be abusing the policies that the realm management has set.

Then why would this kind of queue abuse be allowed, where two or three five man groups counts down on voice communication and queues the same time, then drops queues until both get pop at the same time.

This screws alliance pugs over, expecting to get into a nice game, but ending up joining another 3v10 WSG.

[Niko]

No hard feelings to the players, you're just doing what you need to get honor done.
This use of count down queueing into battlegrounds needs to fucking stop.

Unfair advantage as hell to have 10man premade vs a 5man group and puglets.



Right click, open new tab for larger picture.

[Niko]

Yet again, 10man premade.