Songflower Sere / Whipper tuber root / Night Dragon breath ?

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Songflower Sere / Whipper tuber root / Night Dragon breath ?

by Noxm » Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:04 pm

Hi dear Staff,

Whipper Root Tuber : http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=11951#created-by
Night Dragon's Breath : http://db.vanillagaming.org/?spell=15344
Cleansed Songflower : http://db.vanillagaming.org/?object=174615

- Can i gathering those with friends without getting ban ? Its an exploit ?
- If i had gathered those flower with my friend, can i get ban ?

Edit : Blizzlike proof : https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 36#p265936
Retail - Archimonde EU Vanilla

Other proofs : https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 36#p265955

Thanks for the answer

Are those people seem ban for this blizzlike feature (rumours) :
viewtopic.php?f=65&t=37916
viewtopic.php?f=65&t=37915
viewtopic.php?f=65&t=37911
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Re: Songflower Sere / Whipper tuber root / Night Dragon brea

by Stomptime » Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:15 pm

I'm wondering this aswell.

Are we allowed to countdown-loot the tubers, songflowers etc without risking bans for duping?

Many people are doing this so I'm sure there's many people who would appriciate a quick answer to this.
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Re: Songflower Sere / Whipper tuber root / Night Dragon brea

by Noxm » Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:17 pm

Cause if you ban those NOPE for tuber gathering you can ban those who got songflower serenade aswell..

that would make sense
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Re: Songflower Sere / Whipper tuber root / Night Dragon brea

by Noxm » Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:24 pm

Proof its blizzzlike : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW5mv_e ... e&t=12m52s
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Re: Songflower Sere / Whipper tuber root / Night Dragon brea

by notgunnahappen » Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:38 pm

BRD coffer farming was blizzlike, look what happened there
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Re: Songflower Sere / Whipper tuber root / Night Dragon brea

by Sethzer » Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:43 pm

http://i.imgur.com/QYlJuqG.jpg - image from retail vanilla on EU-Lothar. A whole guild/raid getting a single Songflower for their raid which ofc would work for tubers, windblossom and NDB. In other words: Doable and not something you got banned for back in the days. It got fixed later (2.0 or after) to make it only grant one player the items/buff.

http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/project-1384/ - An addon that was made during retail vanilla that even had a in-built countdown timer feature so everyone could gain the benefits from the felwood interactable plants (Tuber, NDB, Songflower, Windblossom).
In other words: People even made an addon to get the stuff together. You think someone would be dumb enough to make an addon for the public back then to exploit? Use common sense.

http://www.wow-pro.com/node/570 - guide from 2006 (retail vanilla). Also mentions the following:
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If you are fast enough, you will be able to pick Whipper Root Tubers, Night Dragons Breath or Windblossom Berries, two times at each spawn. All you have to do, is to right-click on the plant, pick, and then right-click the plant immediately again. This will cause you're farming time to be reduced drasticaly(maybe not ½, because you might fail sometimes, but still pretty close to 50%, if you do it right)




Intended mechanic or not, calling it "Major bug abuse" is a clear view of lack of information and then going for the gut feeling on what is right or wrong is clearly shown here.
Certainly not something that is categorized as worthy of a permanent ban.



and then you have this certainly:

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Re: Songflower Sere / Whipper tuber root / Night Dragon brea

by põwer » Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:43 pm

Sad Nostalrius staff have had to act like that..

I mean, if you did think it was clearly a bug (even if it was possible to do back on retail in 2004-2006) why didn't you guys didn't fix it like you did w/ Dire Maul North & fixied that? (hunter were able to solo it, Nost team clearly said it was an unfixed bug & fixed it by themself) instead of banning 3 guys that did only things that they were able to do 12y ago.
If those 3 guys you banned (Monkey, Rana, Slipry) really deserved a ban.. Many other people should be punished too.. Because they all clearly did it through their time on Nostalrius

#FreeMonkeySlipryRana

PS I'm gonna add a second video to this thread https://youtu.be/lUWMgQV01Bk?t=18m35s .. You clearly see them both attempting to do it too
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Re: Songflower Sere / Whipper tuber root / Night Dragon brea

by Stomptime » Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:45 pm

Personally I dont care if it's blizzlike or not.

I just want to know if this is a bannable offense so I can avoid a ban in the future.
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Re: Songflower Sere / Whipper tuber root / Night Dragon brea

by Lorilay » Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:50 pm

I think that the Nostalrius GM staff should be a little more transparent if they decide that a standard practice from retail is going to be considered a bug on here, and make an announcement instead of people finding out by getting the ban hammer.
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Re: Songflower Sere / Whipper tuber root / Night Dragon brea

by dadbod » Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:52 pm

Cluster system never coming out so this is plan B.

Perma ban for any stupid reason we can find.

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