Is mining in silithus allowed NOW? Please confirm!

[PriestInOurTime]

Clearly there are some very unfortunate Devilsaur hunters who have permabans coming their way for farming timed respawns. R.I.P

[Darkwinjax]

Everyone with the knowledge of a fixed spawn that doesn't report it to GMs, and ACTIVELY abuses it deserves a perma ban for exploiting

All rare spawn mobs (like Broken Tooth) have a fixed spawn time too, should the Nostalrius staff ban any hunter who has a rare pet tamed? I bet you'd love that, wouldn't you?

Yea disregard the entirity of my post and points so you can make some stupid analogy with a MOB spawn, which in no way will give you any gold advantage over other players, since when has an hunter pet became equivilent to gold? You can literally do everything in this game with gold, you could problably buy yourself into a premade, buy gear from raids etc, what will taming a fucking pet give you? Nothing, what will you lose if you can't tame the pet? Maybe you lose abit of pvp efficiency vs certain classes if you don't have BT, but that's about it.

Server economy is already super fucked, and if you don't think that fixed spawns contribute diretly to the monopolization of certain herbs / ores, you really aren't seing the bigger picture.

I honestly dislike people who abuse this shit, mostly because in ED when I was herb I managed to pick exactly 0, literally 0 black lotus in my travels, they were all controlled by a small group of individuals, what guarantees do you have that the same isn't already happening here? None. Not unless the GMs confirm that the spawns are indeed randomized and can't me timed with precision. I don't even think that the industrial miners are the big problem, it's always gonna be the industrial florists who fuck up everything.

I get huge pleasure from seing these hardcore nerds who time herb / node spawns get what's coming to them.

Anyways i'm pretty sure there's already some oinkers in this server that have 10k+ gold from abusing and exploiting these kind of problems and farming tribute.

[Pugger]

Everyone with the knowledge of a fixed spawn that doesn't report it to GMs, and ACTIVELY abuses it deserves a perma ban for exploiting

All rare spawn mobs (like Broken Tooth) have a fixed spawn time too, should the Nostalrius staff ban any hunter who has a rare pet tamed? I bet you'd love that, wouldn't you?

Yea disregard the entirity of my post and points so you can make some stupid analogy with a MOB spawn, which in no way will give you any gold advantage over other players, since when has an hunter pet became equivilent to gold? You can literally do everything in this game with gold, you could problably buy yourself into a premade, buy gear from raids etc, what will taming a fucking pet give you? Nothing, what will you lose if you can't tame the pet? Maybe you lose abit of pvp efficiency vs certain classes if you don't have BT, but that's about it.

Server economy is already super fucked, and if you don't think that fixed spawns contribute diretly to the monopolization of certain herbs / ores, you really aren't seing the bigger picture.

I honestly dislike people who abuse this shit, mostly because in ED when I was herb I managed to pick exactly 0, literally 0 black lotus in my travels, they were all controlled by a small group of individuals, what guarantees do you have that the same isn't already happening here? None. Not unless the GMs confirm that the spawns are indeed randomized and can't me timed with precision. I don't even think that the industrial miners are the big problem, it's always gonna be the industrial florists who fuck up everything.

I get huge pleasure from seing these hardcore nerds who time herb / node spawns get what's coming to them.

Anyways i'm pretty sure there's already some oinkers in this server that have 10k+ gold from abusing and exploiting these kind of problems and farming tribute.

wtf are u complaining about u casual?

1) if the nodes are bugged they should warn, then fix, and dont ban without either warning or fixing
2) if the nodes are not bugged everyone can go and pick them whenever they want, track their respawn time, and use and "abuse" to get the maximum out of it , tahts the definition of a hardcore player, what do u expect, to let the player say "I know that node will spawn now, but i will let this fucking casual take the lotus cause im a good guy"

GET REAL

[Darkwinjax]

I like when shitters like you use the expression casual, as if keeping timers of bugged spawns is something difficult or an achievement of some sort. Atleast now everybody can see why lotus prices go for the absurdity they go, and same for other end game nodes. It's like you are proud of being the best donkey running after the carrot, nodes aren't supposed to be TIMED nor are they supposed to have a FIXED location, if you cannot understand this simple concept that ruins server economy / promotes gold selling / promotes botting and multiboxing, then the only thing left for you to do is enlist yourself in a psychiatrist to treat that aspergers of yours. I hope staff doesn't go behind their actions, and I can only hope they do more to fix the cancer that are Neets like you tbh, and take this from someone whose sole interest in vanilla is to have fun with its PvP.

[Armilus]

Quoting Daemon:

About 5 accounts have been banned for exploiting this bug, that is fixed now.
These accounts were doing it at an "industrial level" (gathering these same nodes way more than 500 times a week !) and thus gathering a lot of gold/items in a very little period of time.

my emphasis.

Can we pleaase get a confirmation that mining nodes is OK now? I might be a bit paranoid and autistic but hell, I just want to know if there is any limit to the amount of nodes that a player is entitled to mine or whats the deal now. Are we free to mine as much as possible in silithus?

Hey here's an idea, why don't you try reading the rest of the quote that you cut off before posting.

To be clear once again, our Terms of Use defines sanctions for exploiters, that we actually apply. However, players that play the game in the way it is meant to be played don't have to worry. Yes, you can still gather veins / herbs without any problem.

Oh hey look! The answer to your question was actually IN the quote, you just somehow accidentally remove it. Surely you didn't make this thread just to whine and complain about the terrible injustice of someone else being banned for obviously exploiting.

Here's a tip, if you find a mining node that never disappears and just keeps on giving you loot over and over and over, you MIGHT be banned for that.

If you figure out some really neat trick, like say looting the node once, waiting 3 minutes, then looting it again and it NEVER disappears and just keeps giving loot. Then you decide to do this every day for 8 hours for weeks on end. THAT is something you will definitely be banned for. I'm pretty sure the people that were banned, were doing something on this level (if not this exact thing).

[Pugger]

I like when shitters like you use the expression casual, as if keeping timers of bugged spawns is something difficult or an achievement of some sort. Atleast now everybody can see why lotus prices go for the absurdity they go, and same for other end game nodes. It's like you are proud of being the best donkey running after the carrot, nodes aren't supposed to be TIMED nor are they supposed to have a FIXED location, if you cannot understand this simple concept that ruins server economy / promotes gold selling / promotes botting and multiboxing, then the only thing left for you to do is enlist yourself in a psychiatrist to treat that aspergers of yours. I hope staff doesn't go behind their actions, and I can only hope they do more to fix the cancer that are Neets like you tbh, and take this from someone whose sole interest in vanilla is to have fun with its PvP.

casual is someone who comes to forums and cry they cant get lotus

if u want lotus do what everyone does

if u cant do it u are fucking casual m8

if the nodes are bugged they should fix them, if not do ur best to farm them (see my points 1) and 2) )

[warcraftselblatt]

Here is how I see it;

About 5 accounts have been banned for exploiting this bug, that is fixed now.
These accounts were doing it at an "industrial level" (gathering these same nodes way more than 500 times a week !) and thus gathering a lot of gold/items in a very little period of time.

The first thing that stands out to me is that the reason given for the ban was for exploiting a bug. You cant reasonably expect the staff to go into detail about how the bug works, but if they were exploiting a bug and not just obsessively farming nodes, then they do deserve to be banned. Exploiting bugs is a known way to get banned and is obviously against the Terms of Use.

1) if the nodes are bugged they should warn, then fix, and dont ban without either warning or fixing

I disagree with this. These people knew they were exploiting a bug, and if they didn't, then it was , at the very least, willful ignorance. The staff isn't responsible for warning you every time you decide to do something shady. It is your responsibility to make sure you follow the Terms of Use, if you are unsure contact a GM.

I think a lot of you are getting caught up by the narrative that they were allegedly banned for farming, when in reality, they were banned for exploiting a bug that gave them a competitive advantage while farming (or at least that's how I interpret the situation).

I think a lot of noise is being made for what is basically boils down to a common case of cheaters getting caught and banned. Until there is actual evidence that all they were doing is farming on an obsessive level (and most likely unhealthy level) and not exploiting a bug, I am going to side with the nost staff on this.