Invalid Banning Reasoning

[Tjyvis]

@riq and snog

It MIGHT have solved the problem beforehand, but then again the GM that has banned Crovern states that he has confirmed that he is using a bot. Whilst identifying Pet AFK farming as "Bot-doings" which in itself is contradictory. If he was using a bot then why would he only use his pet? And as said before, if the game mechanics allow it then it IS allowed. This isn't even part of the discussion so why discuss?

[Crovern]

No, I have no interest in how their anti-cheat system works. I know it's there and I think it's great that it exist.

I always had the computer at hand but couldn't pay attention to it at all times which in turn gets me logged out due to inactivity. I actually don't see this as an unfair advantage at all, just me chosing the worst xp gain method which suited perfectly for the time I had available at that time.

And it is not sure at all that it would have solved anything by creating a ticket beforehand. I didn't get banned for getting xp through my pet. I got banned for.. I don't even know. Too little movement? Not answering to whispers? Loggin back into the game? and called it botting

[riq and snog]

@riq and snog

It MIGHT have solved the problem beforehand, but then again the GM that has banned Crovern states that he has confirmed that he is using a bot. Whilst identifying Pet AFK farming as "Bot-doings" which in itself is contradictory. If he was using a bot then why would he only use his pet? And as said before, if the game mechanics allow it then it IS allowed. This isn't even part of the discussion so why discuss?

because using a normal bot didnt work?
all it takes here is a mechanical device pressing your jump key.
U dont need scripts for that or anything. Having several acounts open on changed ip‘’s and having a mechanical devise to jump once in a while (, aka homer simpson in that one episode where hes working from home, because of overweight) is all it takes! still kind of botting xp
which could lead to a lot of alts for transmute etc. been there, done that:-)

its a loophole yes!
and its undetectable yes!
its still u being afk leeching, which is bad:-)

As a general rule of comon sense
If u can not play the game cuz busy irl dont do it.

[Crovern]

I didn't just only stand there jumping. I often melee attacked the mob with my hunter, looted, skinned, sold items and always fed my pet to keep it happy. So not Homer Simpson applicable.

If u can not play the game cuz busy irl dont do it.

This is where you get logged out due to inactivity.

Some ppl will always see every method of farming as unfair. But as I said multiple times, the xp farming method isn't the issue here. It's how they can confirm something that never occured, and banning me for it.

[riq and snog]

Ok again
Step 1 make a hunter on second account
Step 2 bind some action to your mousewheel (Jump mousewheel up, mend pet mousewheel down)
step 3 construct a mechanical device to roll that wheel up and down within a timeframe of 10 to 15 minutes
Step 4 run and loot from time to time if u want or just go to sleep
U have a new transmute alt

All this while still being able to play your main!

whether or not you had bad intensions its an exploit with the right tools that can not be detected!
At least atm u still get xp from it

Its not a bot
It can not be detected from within the game
You know that aswel as i do.

If they unbann u and dont change tos i probably have some alts soon
Lets say10
all 60 by leechin within a month
While playing my main
I will then procceed, if i should need money that is,
to logg them all on different spots switching from hunter to hunter to loot 24/7
doing that once a week for lets say 5 hours gives me enough money for raiding consumables just by vendoring or selling cloth
I do also plan to make them all tailors leatherworkers or alchys
maybe a skinner.
Logging for raid days with minimal effort.
Thanks nostalrius.
If you call it smart farming fine

[Tjyvis]

@riq and snog

At this point we must assume that you have learning difficulties.
We are NOT discussing wether it is POSSIBLE to make botting actions untracable or not.
We are NOT discussing wether there is some way of manipulating the farming and leveling system.
We ARE talking about wether what Crovern did (i.e farming xp with his pet) constitutes as bannable bot farming.

It seems obvious that you feel that it is really important for you to show your reportoar of botting knowledge. Maybe you should start a new thread where you can show off these skillsf.

[riq and snog]

So being Afk while still interacting with environment
in order to advance is not an exploit by definition?

again comon sense
Afk=dont play wow or interact with environment (Xp leech in your case)
not afk= play wow.

What is so hard of playing a game actively or doing something irl, not trying to combine both.

For me its an exploit, not yet defined by tos thats all im saying!
Its clever usage of game mechanics available to your class.
Im not the guy who banned you all im doing is stating my opinion, enlarging on a bigger scale in order for you to realise its exploitable.

How would you procceed as a gm now?
unbann?
how can you prevent the exploit, in the future?
as stated its not xp but can be used as legit farming method!
until these questions are cleared we have to wait!

[pingli88]

Ok again
Step 1 make a hunter on second account
Step 2 bind some action to your mousewheel (Jump mousewheel up, mend pet mousewheel down)
step 3 construct a mechanical device to roll that wheel up and down within a timeframe of 10 to 15 minutes
Step 4 run and loot from time to time if u want or just go to sleep
U have a new transmute alt

All this while still being able to play your main!

whether or not you had bad intensions its an exploit with the right tools that can not be detected!
At least atm u still get xp from it

Its not a bot
It can not be detected from within the game
You know that aswel as i do.

If they unbann u and dont change tos i probably have some alts soon
Lets say10
all 60 by leechin within a month
While playing my main
I will then procceed, if i should need money that is,
to logg them all on different spots switching from hunter to hunter to loot 24/7
doing that once a week for lets say 5 hours gives me enough money for raiding consumables just by vendoring or selling cloth
I do also plan to make them all tailors leatherworkers or alchys
maybe a skinner.
Logging for raid days with minimal effort.
Thanks nostalrius.
If you call it smart farming fine

You're an idiot. I would like to see you make an alt and do everything you said. Let's see you play a main and still have your alt hunter pick up loot and skin at the same time. Why are you making assumptions that the OP was doing that? Were you there to see him do it? Did a GM or Admin PM you to tell you what he was doing?

[riq and snog]

I fail to see where i accused the op of doing these things.
I also sttated one can loot from time to time if u choose to
In my exaggeration however i state that its powerfarming, where you just switch from toon to toon looting. Since once u are at number 10 the mobs on number 1 have spawned and been killed again.
You can not play your main during that period obv, but you do have 5 hours of constantly looting which should give you quite an advantage over single farmers.
aka exploit.

[Tjyvis]

@Aerbax

Is there any reason for not replying other than some childish thought of pride for not admitting that you've done an error when banning Crovern?

This is kind of ridicoulus and is just confirming that the age 14 is not always physical but sometimes even a state of mind.