Rest in Piece Guard Thomas, you will be missed.

[Homer]

You are making forum posts to try and change something with what you consider logic yet I go to read your retort and get insulted multiple times in the first line. I feel I have no need to comment further.

[MrSkellington]

You are making forum posts to try and change something with what you consider logic yet I go to read your retort and get insulted multiple times in the first line. I feel I have no need to comment further.

Nah, I only asked if you were retarded because you seem to think that your link is 'the heart of vanilla pvp' and that it compares to what Ogtucker is doing. The second insult was for Ogtucker. But hey sugarcube I am sorry for raining down on you like that, cheer up.

[Homer]

Water of a ducks back mate I was simply trying to convey that such heavy handed tactics will get you no were on your quest for a carebear realm, actually who am I kidding minorities whining loudly to get something changed is the World of Warcraft way, but this old timer can dream.

[Koybeen]

This Is going to piss a bunch of people off but here it goes anyways...


Should have played Horde!

[Terranaut]

Water of a ducks back mate I was simply trying to convey that such heavy handed tactics will get you no were on your quest for a carebear realm, actually who am I kidding minorities whining loudly to get something changed is the World of Warcraft way, but this old timer can dream.

No one here wants a carebear realm. There is nothing hardcore about a lonely autist dedicating two thirds of his waking day farming a quest NPC and hindering the progress of a bunch of alliance players. That's plain and simple griefing and if you can't see this then you're fucking deluded.
The only and ONLY effect this has is ruining the game for everybody involved for a prolonged experience of time and nothing is blizzlike about that. At least kiting Worldbosses to Stormwind is funny to look at even if you die five times. Some guy who even his mother doesn't love repeatedly killing your quest guy for hours on end is frustrating and serves no purpose.
It could be argued that it was okay if he gained something -- there's a case of a lot, and I mean a lot, of people getting banned for farming Jaina Proudmoore because she dropped like, what, five or six gold every time? And she respawned very fast. Blizzard didn't like it and banned them -- THAT is stupid, whether Blizzard did it to save somebodies game experience or that servers economy doesn't matter. There was a clear defined and very well understandble reason to farming her like those players did and if Blizzard wanted them to stop they could have changed the loot table to make her a less attractive target of repeated farming.

[Homer]

So let me get this straight you want to use non-legitimate outside the game means to hinder the enemy factions gameplay that is also directly competing for almost all the worlds resources including the non-physical because they are hindering your gameplay? Also as I know your response ahead of time, the word "gameplay" is not defined by your personal and emotional opinion.

I don't see a logical argument against this except for your emotional feelings on the matter, I have included what I feel to be very valid points for why the rule should not be implemented which have not been touched upon in the slightest, I am responding with valid logical points and all I see in return is people spewing out there emotions, insulting me and failing to actually leave a solid argument for there side.

[MrSkellington]

So let me get this straight you want to use non-legitimate outside the game means to hinder the enemy factions gameplay that is also directly competing for almost all the worlds resources including the non-physical because they are hindering your gameplay? Also as I know your response ahead of time, the word "gameplay" is not defined by your personal and emotional opinion.

I don't see a logical argument against this except for your emotional feelings on the matter, I have included what I feel to be very valid points for why the rule should not be implemented which have not been touched upon in the slightest, I am responding with valid logical points and all I see in return is people spewing out there emotions, insulting me and failing to actually leave a solid argument for there side.

Are you hungry? You seem to be looking for food, get the hell outa here. You have been given arguments that are valid, you just fall back on your anal reply "stop putting emotions and personal opinion in it omg."

Fact of the matter is, spending hour on end keeping a certain NPC out of the game or disabling his uses, is not allowed.(I am not talking about grinding mobs that give him any sort of benefit, such as mobs with loot etc.) He has been given his warning and he will recieve a ban/suspension if he continues to do so.

There is nothing about this that will turn the realm into a carebear realm, if anything it will make it more enjoyable for people. PvP is fine, ganking and camping is fine, being an asshole is not.

[Buiaka]

This is hillarious, i think a GM should warn Ogthucker if anything when it becomes really excessive, handing out a perma ban for chain killing NPC in a pvp server is unacceptable in my opinion, but i can see how continuous griefing could eventually lead to that on NOS. This in a way acts as a population control, the question then becomes, are we glad he does this so we dont have 10000 people and a more unstable server? Or mad that he is making the new people joining the server quit early leading to potential unbalanced factions (lel ) or less population growth in the least? I personally, have mixed feelings about this.