Banned for using Modified WoW exe?

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Re: Banned for using Modified WoW exe?

by clawlancer2 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:15 am

SanderP wrote:You retard got already dealt with, nothing to trash here.


Oh okay.
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Re: Banned for using Modified WoW exe?

by Korbendallas » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:26 pm

clawlancer2 wrote:Show me which part of the TOS i broke (https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8)


GM has already answered you:

III - Cheating and sharing account

Is considered as cheating any program or file which allows to get access, use or modify data that players can't normally access or modify.

V - Sanctions

F - Account closure / permanent ban : Most serious sanction. Permanent ban are rare but definitive.

Examples:
  • Hacking.


If there are any checksum differences of any basic client's files (MPQ, EXE, DLL) anticheat system considers it as hacking regardless of the intentions. It is not allowed to modify these files. It is the rule here and if you do not agree and accept it you can't play on Nostalrius.
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Re: Banned for using Modified WoW exe?

by clawlancer2 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:43 pm

Korbendallas wrote:
clawlancer2 wrote:Show me which part of the TOS i broke (https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8)


GM has already answered you:

III - Cheating and sharing account

Is considered as cheating any program or file which allows to get access, use or modify data that players can't normally access or modify.

V - Sanctions

F - Account closure / permanent ban : Most serious sanction. Permanent ban are rare but definitive.

Examples:
  • Hacking.


If there are any checksum differences of any basic client's files (MPQ, EXE, DLL) anticheat system considers it as hacking regardless of the intentions. It is not allowed to modify these files. It is the rule here and if you do not agree and accept it you can't play on Nostalrius.


I haven't got any access to any datas, so i stil don't see the point. But thanks!:)
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Re: Banned for using Modified WoW exe?

by macgarthur » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 pm

You're not allowed to use a modified game client, regardless of why it was modified. You used a modified game client. If you were truly doing it to enhance the sound quality of the game then it's really an oversight of the devs. You shouldn't be banned, however this could be a good experience for the devs to make some alterations as I can see this happening to other people unknowingly.
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Re: Banned for using Modified WoW exe?

by ovedbeyhan » Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:05 pm

This is a known issue with the 1.12.1 client having reliance on Hardware Accelerated sound channels.
When run on a modern PC and Windows XP+ you do not have any access to harware channels.
You are left with 12 Software channels which means that you can hear only up to 12 sounds at the same time.
This means that if I stand next to 39 other players in a raid while they are fighting mobs i would hear the first 12 sounds.
Sounds such as any casting sound, emotes, mobs and players being hit.
This totally decreases the immersion of 10 years ago.

It's quite baffling really that a Private Server would ban a person for using something that the Vanilla community has made in order to make a 10 year old client work better on modern computers.

By the way if you are wondering why the EXE was modified, it's because this setting is inaccessible on 1.12.1, but in TBC a built in slider was made in the sound options, which behind the scenes was editing a CVar (Console Variable) easily settable via config.wtf.

TBC config.wtf Example:
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SET Sound_NumChannels "X"


My 1.12.1 Logs/Sound.log
3/31 19:49:56.278 Sound::Initialize()
3/31 19:49:56.278 fmod.dll version 3.75 loaded
3/31 19:49:56.298 memory system configured: SMem wrappers
3/31 19:49:56.330 Output system: 2 'Direct Sound'
3/31 19:49:56.330 Driver: 0 'Primary Sound Driver' 00000000
3/31 19:49:56.330 Mixer: 0 'MMXP6'
3/31 19:49:56.330 Buffer size: 50ms
3/31 19:49:56.330 Channels: 12 (12 software, 0 2D hardware(dsound), 0 3D hardware)
3/31 19:49:56.330 Output rate: 44100 Hz
3/31 19:49:56.330 Initialization flags: 00000082
3/31 19:49:56.330 Sound::Initialize() complete

My 2.4.3 Logs/SESound.log:
1/24 22:38:04.016 => Version 2.4.3 (8606) Jul 10 2008
1/24 22:38:04.041
1/24 22:38:04.084 => Setting up Game Sound:
1/24 22:38:04.116 - SESound Engine Init
1/24 22:38:04.156 - FMOD Memory Init
1/24 22:38:04.200 - FMOD System Create
1/24 22:38:04.351 - FMOD version 00040907 detected
1/24 22:38:04.390 - Hardware is DISABLED
1/24 22:38:04.408 - Reverb is DISABLED
1/24 22:38:04.440 - 5 Output drivers detected
1/24 22:38:04.458 --- [0] System Default
1/24 22:38:04.482 --- [1] Speakers (HP Digital Stereo Headset)
1/24 22:38:04.500 --- [2] Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
1/24 22:38:04.524 --- [3] Realtek Digital Output(Optical) (Realtek High Definition Audio)
1/24 22:38:04.542 --- [4] S23B550-1 (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)
1/24 22:38:04.565 - Using [0] System Default for Game Output
1/24 22:38:04.583 - Using 32 channels.
1/24 22:38:04.608 - DSPBufferSize = AUTO DETECT
1/24 22:38:04.625 - Detected Control Panel Speaker Mode = STEREO
1/24 22:38:04.649 - Setting WoW Speaker Mode to STEREO
1/24 22:38:04.677 - FMOD System Init OK!
1/24 22:38:04.699 => Game Sound is ready.
1/24 22:38:04.717
1/24 22:38:04.740 => User Settings Report:
1/24 22:38:04.761 - ========= PLAYBACK =========
1/24 22:38:04.782 - Enable All Sound [1]
1/24 22:38:04.800 - Enable SFX [1]
1/24 22:38:04.824 --- Enable Error Speech [1]
1/24 22:38:04.842 --- Enable Emote Sounds [1]
1/24 22:38:04.865 - Enable Music [1]
1/24 22:38:04.886 --- Loop Music [0]
1/24 22:38:04.907 - Enable Ambient Sounds [1]
1/24 22:38:04.925 - Sound at Character [1]
1/24 22:38:04.949 - Sound in Background [0]
1/24 22:38:04.967 - Enable Reverb [0]
1/24 22:38:04.990 -
1/24 22:38:05.011 - ========== VOLUME ==========
1/24 22:38:05.032 - Master Volume [1.00]
1/24 22:38:05.050 - SFX Volume [1.00]
1/24 22:38:05.074 - Music Volume [0.40]
1/24 22:38:05.092 - Ambience Volume [0.60]
1/24 22:38:05.115 -
1/24 22:38:05.136 - =========== MISC ===========
1/24 22:38:05.157 - Sound Channels [32]
1/24 22:38:05.175 - Use Hardware [0]
1/24 22:38:05.199 - Mix Mode 2 [0]
1/24 22:38:05.217 - DSP Buffer Size [AUTO]
1/24 22:38:05.240 - Armor Foley SFX (Self) [1]
1/24 22:38:05.258 - Armor Foley SFX (Others) [1]
1/24 22:38:05.282 => End of User Settings Report
1/24 22:38:08.318
1/24 22:38:08.342 => Shutting Down Game Sound
1/24 22:38:08.418 => Done Shutting Down Game Sound
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Re: Banned for using Modified WoW exe?

by Keldan » Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:52 pm

If they were clever, they would allow some modified WoW.exes for this kind of thing. They could easily put an "or" on their checksum.
I'm deeply sorry dude.. They probably don't think about that because it's not their job, they just follow orders.
The TOS should be clarified or this kind of accident will happen again and again.
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Re: Banned for using Modified WoW exe?

by layamer » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:17 pm

It's a shame banning him for something that's clearly wasn't in the TOS. Considering he only edited sound channels just makes it worse.
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Re: Banned for using Modified WoW exe?

by clawlancer2 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:39 pm

Thank you all guys for the support, already downloaded the Nostalrius client, and still waiting for judgement, just a reminder guys, never ever try to use anything else then Nostalrius Exe! don't get in trouble like me.
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Re: Banned for using Modified WoW exe?

by Witcher » Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:58 pm

Hello Claw,

You were banned for hacking, something we do not do haphazardly. This is not just due to you using a modified client, which is a separate part of the issue and still not the mail reason.

Your account will not be unbanned.

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Re: Banned for using Modified WoW exe?

by clawlancer2 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:20 pm

Witcher wrote:Hello Claw,

You were banned for hacking, something we do not do haphazardly. This is not just due to you using a modified client, which is a separate part of the issue and still not the mail reason.

Your account will not be unbanned.

-Witcher


For hacking?
Used a modified WoW.exe to get more Sound Channels, to feel the great Vanilla Sound effects.
I've got ported to GM Island by a GM, saying he tought that im botting lol.
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/150328/WoWS ... es.hu_.jpg
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/150328/WoWS ... es.hu_.jpg
I was leveling, you can see clearly i'm not using any illegal things.
This is getting crazy.
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