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[Papertank]

i am wondering if its perma ban or temporary ban. plz let me know in pm or on here. thanks

Acct name: Stabbymcgee
Character name: Stabbymcgee

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[norm964bgb]

i am wondering if its perma ban or temporary ban. plz let me know in pm or on here. thanks

Acct name: Stabbymcgee
Character name: Stabbymcgee

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Be happy about the staff banning offenders.
On one hand it sucks for you to get treated so harshly.
But on the other hand you know now that exploits will never be handled like from Blizzard:"Jaja, you made a major exploit, you might have your obtained gear and get a slap on the hand 72 hours ban."
Dont exploit, dont get banned.

[Pallysir]

i am wondering if its perma ban or temporary ban. plz let me know in pm or on here. thanks

Acct name: Stabbymcgee
Character name: Stabbymcgee

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#freestabbymcgee2015

[Kailas]

Do we get to find out whether or not this is a permanent ban or just temporary? Papertank made a mistake which lead to this. He has learnt from it and just wants to move on. Please un-ban him.

You abuse a bug. You get banned.
You kill someone. You go to jail.

So yeah, I'm sure every convict made a mistake, guess we should let them all out right? But that's just not any of my business.

Sending a person to jail does not solve a problem only postpones it and perm ban is more equivalent of death sentence or life in prison.

I would go for removing all gold and items (legally or illegally obtained) from first time offender characters before perm ban and removing all illegal gold/items from characters that were given/traded items/gold with the offenders. However I am unsure of how complicated it is to establish what was legal/illegal gold/items on people who traded offenders as I never was a part of running a server and this would probably just complicate things beyond reason.

So now we have dozens of people running around with alcors sunrazors obtained through abuse but bought for hopefully legal gold. How about that? BiS tanking weapon that should be worth thousands of gold and should be obtained by coordinated work of a whole guild in order to equip their tanks so whole guild benefits. I am pretty sure leaderships of the guilds were aware the drop rates were bugged or that there was some kind of a bug abuse going on.

Where is the line drawn ?

[Kryp]

Do we get to find out whether or not this is a permanent ban or just temporary? Papertank made a mistake which lead to this. He has learnt from it and just wants to move on. Please un-ban him.

You abuse a bug. You get banned.
You kill someone. You go to jail.

So yeah, I'm sure every convict made a mistake, guess we should let them all out right? But that's just not any of my business.

Sending a person to jail does not solve a problem only postpones it and perm ban is more equivalent of death sentence or life in prison.

I would go for removing all gold and items (legally or illegally obtained) from first time offender characters before perm ban and removing all illegal gold/items from characters that were given/traded items/gold with the offenders. However I am unsure of how complicated it is to establish what was legal/illegal gold/items on people who traded offenders as I never was a part of running a server and this would probably just complicate things beyond reason.

So now we have dozens of people running around with alcors sunrazors obtained through abuse but bought for hopefully legal gold. How about that? BiS tanking weapon that should be worth thousands of gold and should be obtained by coordinated work of a whole guild in order to equip their tanks so whole guild benefits. Dozens of people; most guilds have a few. I am pretty sure leaderships of the guilds were aware the drop rates were bugged or that there was some kind of a bug abuse going on.

Where is the line drawn ?

It's like, crazy. You know when you get pulled over by a cop, and they say you're speeding, and you say "So was he." Well, I caught you. If you really are so concerned about other guilds, report them, and the GMs will look into it.

Yeah. Let's keep him permanently banned so he can't have a chance to do it again. I don't like cheaters.

[dro]

Do we get to find out whether or not this is a permanent ban or just temporary? Papertank made a mistake which lead to this. He has learnt from it and just wants to move on. Please un-ban him.

You abuse a bug. You get banned.
You kill someone. You go to jail.

So yeah, I'm sure every convict made a mistake, guess we should let them all out right? But that's just not any of my business.

Sending a person to jail does not solve a problem only postpones it and perm ban is more equivalent of death sentence or life in prison.

I would go for removing all gold and items (legally or illegally obtained) from first time offender characters before perm ban and removing all illegal gold/items from characters that were given/traded items/gold with the offenders. However I am unsure of how complicated it is to establish what was legal/illegal gold/items on people who traded offenders as I never was a part of running a server and this would probably just complicate things beyond reason.

So now we have dozens of people running around with alcors sunrazors obtained through abuse but bought for hopefully legal gold. How about that? BiS tanking weapon that should be worth thousands of gold and should be obtained by coordinated work of a whole guild in order to equip their tanks so whole guild benefits. I am pretty sure leaderships of the guilds were aware the drop rates were bugged or that there was some kind of a bug abuse going on.

Where is the line drawn ?

I cannot agree more with the temp ban and removing gold statement. Certain exploits people were perm banned for you could do on retail so I don't understand the logic in this unless they were doing other methods of exploiting at the same time

[Kailas]

What I meant was you did not solve the problem, there is just gonna be more people abusing and as I said I am not sure how good they can keep track of who does it. Why do you have a car that can go 200 mph if your laws restrict the speed to 120 mph. Why not remove the possibility of abuse in the first place and be done with it.

Stabbys case is a bit different as it was only concerning BRD vault which was not banable on other private projects or in retail as far as I know. Nothing as game breaking as acquiring dozens of Alcors Sunrazors.

Its basically like punishing a person that was speeding and a person that was speeding drunk and killing five people with the same sentence.

[dro]

What I meant was you did not solve the problem, there is just gonna be more people abusing and as I said I am not sure how good they can keep track of who does it. Why do you have a car that can go 200 mph if your laws restrict the speed to 120 mph. Why not remove the possibility of abuse in the first place and be done with it.

Stabbys case is a bit different as it was only concerning BRD vault which was not banable on other private projects or in retail as far as I know. Nothing as game breaking as acquiring dozens of Alcors Sunrazors.

Its basically like punishing a person that was speeding and a person that was speeding drunk and killing five people with same punishment.

You are correct, you were able to do coffers on retail until Cata iirc and my case along with a few other people I know's is very similar to stabby's as well.

[Kryp]

What I meant was you did not solve the problem, there is just gonna be more people abusing and as I said I am not sure how good they can keep track of who does it. Why do you have a car that can go 200 mph if your laws restrict the speed to 120 mph. Why not remove the possibility of abuse in the first place and be done with it.

Stabbys case is a bit different as it was only concerning BRD vault which was not banable on other private projects or in retail as far as I know. Nothing as game breaking as acquiring dozens of Alcors Sunrazors.

Its basically like punishing a person that was speeding and a person that was speeding drunk and killing five people with same punishment.

You are correct, you were able to do coffers on retail until Cata iirc and my case along with a few other people I know's is very similar to stabby's as well.

Here's the problem. That was then, this is now. You knew you were breaking the rules. This is their private server, not retail, not Feenix, not Kronos. This is Nostalrius. It's very clear that exploits get you banned. Its on the terms of service. I'm not sure why we're giving one person a temporary ban, because then essentially you're giving everyone a temporary ban. Everyone's gonna ask for it. It's easier to just keep him banned. Don't be an idiot and things like this wont happen.

[gunzbngbng]

Free stabby!