Fix Molten Core loot.

[Zach]

If the items existed you'd be able to link them ingame. Go look at atlasloot and look at which items you can actually see. Salamander scale pants, Finkle's, Eye of Divinity, Band of Accuria, Malistar's Defender, etc do not exist.

So... what's the problem? Those items were all added in 1.4

I swear to god all of you people are illiterate. Ragnaros was not even KILLED BEFORE 1.4. There is ZERO possibility for MC items to be pre-1.4. They are based ON 1.4.

[Armilus]

If the items existed you'd be able to link them ingame. Go look at atlasloot and look at which items you can actually see. Salamander scale pants, Finkle's, Eye of Divinity, Band of Accuria, Malistar's Defender, etc do not exist.

So... what's the problem? Those items were all added in 1.4

I swear to god all of you people are illiterate. Ragnaros was not even KILLED BEFORE 1.4. There is ZERO possibility for MC items to be pre-1.4. They are based ON 1.4.

I guess you didn't know that wow was released in NA before it was released in EU. Many NA guilds killed every boss up to majordomo before the 1.4 patch. While it is impossible to know ragnaros' loot table pre-1.4 with 100% certainty, we do have a method to identify what items were added in what patch and it works with 100% accuracy on EVERY other bosses loot table.

[Imbaslap]

Zach.. you're confusing the shit out of everyone.

if world first rag was not killed until 1.4 and later. then that means rag drops no loot until 1.4 or later.
and if Nostalrius is trying to do it before 1.4, wouldn't that answer your bug report then? because then rag dropping 0 loot is accurate then.

considering the ONLY rag kill was dated to 1.4 and later then no one realy knows what he dropped before 1.4 then. henceforth, who knows?

[Zach]

Zach.. you're confusing the shit out of everyone.

if world first rag was not killed until 1.4 and later. then that means rag drops no loot until 1.4 or later.
and if Nostalrius is trying to do it before 1.4, wouldn't that answer your bug report then? because then rag dropping 0 loot is accurate then.

considering the ONLY rag kill was dated to 1.4 and later then no one realy knows what he dropped before 1.4 then. henceforth, who knows?

Why the fuck would they make a Rag that dropped zero loot? Holy shit. You seriously need to stop posting, you're making your guild look worse.

[Cataclysm]

you're all just wrong, armilus' understood my method completely.

DOMO LOOT does NOT EXIST pre 1.4. There is slight evidence that 1.4 (20th April 2005) added the chest and the items inside. They ALL HAVE A CERTAIN SPECIFIC ITEM ID, valuing around LATE 18000s. (1.4 = LATE 18000s).


RAGNAROS LOOT __DOES__ EXIST pre 1.4. There is strong evidence that PRIOR TO 1.3, ITEMS FROM RAGNAROS WERE IN THE GAME. They ALL HAVE A CERTAIN SPECIFIC ITEM ID, valuing around EARLY 17000s (1.2? = EARLY 17000s.) This is not hard. This is not at all hard to understand.

Ignoring the first 9 bosses and only looking at Ragnaros:

Cloak of the Shrouded Mists (17102)
Dragon's Blood Cape (17107)
Spinal Reaper (17104)
Bonereaver's Edge (17076) DROPPED IN THE WORLD FIRST RAGNAROS KILL
Malistar's Defender (17106) DROPPED IN THE WORLD FIRST RAGNAROS KILL
Band of Accuria (17063)

Eye of Sulfuras (17204 - the hammer has an ID of 17182)

can ANYONE PLEASE POST ANY SINGLE THING THAT WOULD PROVE THIS THEORY WRONG?

[nervous]

Zach.. you're confusing the shit out of everyone.

if world first rag was not killed until 1.4 and later. then that means rag drops no loot until 1.4 or later.
and if Nostalrius is trying to do it before 1.4, wouldn't that answer your bug report then? because then rag dropping 0 loot is accurate then.

considering the ONLY rag kill was dated to 1.4 and later then no one realy knows what he dropped before 1.4 then. henceforth, who knows?

Do you actually think if a guild killed rag pre 1.4 that he would drop zero loot? Do you have any other instances where bosses didn't drop loot that you can draw on to assume the case would be similar? Why Would his loot table be changed...?

[Armilus]

you're all just wrong, armilus' understood my method completely.

DOMO LOOT does NOT EXIST pre 1.4. There is slight evidence that 1.4 (20th April 2005) added the chest and the items inside. They ALL HAVE A CERTAIN SPECIFIC ITEM ID, valuing around LATE 18000s. (1.4 = LATE 18000s).


RAGNAROS LOOT __DOES__ EXIST pre 1.4. There is strong evidence that PRIOR TO 1.3, ITEMS FROM RAGNAROS WERE IN THE GAME. They ALL HAVE A CERTAIN SPECIFIC ITEM ID, valuing around EARLY 17000s (1.2? = EARLY 17000s.) This is not hard. This is not at all hard to understand.

Ignoring the first 9 bosses and only looking at Ragnaros:

Cloak of the Shrouded Mists (17102)
Dragon's Blood Cape (17107)
Spinal Reaper (17104)
Bonereaver's Edge (17076) DROPPED IN THE WORLD FIRST RAGNAROS KILL
Malistar's Defender (17106) DROPPED IN THE WORLD FIRST RAGNAROS KILL
Band of Accuria (17063)

Eye of Sulfuras (17204 - the hammer has an ID of 17182)

can ANYONE PLEASE POST ANY SINGLE THING THAT WOULD PROVE THIS THEORY WRONG?

I agree with the above post 100%.

[Zach]

you're all just wrong, armilus' understood my method completely.

DOMO LOOT does NOT EXIST pre 1.4. There is slight evidence that 1.4 (20th April 2005) added the chest and the items inside. They ALL HAVE A CERTAIN SPECIFIC ITEM ID, valuing around LATE 18000s. (1.4 = LATE 18000s).


RAGNAROS LOOT __DOES__ EXIST pre 1.4. There is strong evidence that PRIOR TO 1.3, ITEMS FROM RAGNAROS WERE IN THE GAME. They ALL HAVE A CERTAIN SPECIFIC ITEM ID, valuing around EARLY 17000s (1.2? = EARLY 17000s.) This is not hard. This is not at all hard to understand.

Ignoring the first 9 bosses and only looking at Ragnaros:

Cloak of the Shrouded Mists (17102)
Dragon's Blood Cape (17107)
Spinal Reaper (17104)
Bonereaver's Edge (17076) DROPPED IN THE WORLD FIRST RAGNAROS KILL
Malistar's Defender (17106) DROPPED IN THE WORLD FIRST RAGNAROS KILL
Band of Accuria (17063)

Eye of Sulfuras (17204 - the hammer has an ID of 17182)

can ANYONE PLEASE POST ANY SINGLE THING THAT WOULD PROVE THIS THEORY WRONG?

It's obvious loot is supposed to be based on 1.4 anyway based on the cache of the firelord existing in the first place. Really just need an admin reply and not idiotic replies I'm getting from other people.

[Imbaslap]

Zach.. you're confusing the shit out of everyone.

if world first rag was not killed until 1.4 and later. then that means rag drops no loot until 1.4 or later.
and if Nostalrius is trying to do it before 1.4, wouldn't that answer your bug report then? because then rag dropping 0 loot is accurate then.

considering the ONLY rag kill was dated to 1.4 and later then no one realy knows what he dropped before 1.4 then. henceforth, who knows?

Why the fuck would they make a Rag that dropped zero loot? Holy shit. You seriously need to stop posting, you're making your guild look worse.

I don't see how that has anything to do with my guild as I am agreeing with cataclysm and so far he has the only thing that backs up the Ragnaros no loot issue as being a major bug.

the only thing you provided was... well nothing really. just entertainment for trolling and opportunity to pester on the forums.

I think cataclysm's loot ID's are proof enough to show that there is clearly something wrong. otherwise, quit being a negative nancy Zach. your guildmember did the hard work already. -.-"

[Keftenk]

If Blizz was a JP developer. I could totally believe Ragnaros not dropping anything lol..