Fix Molten Core loot.

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Re: Fix Molten Core loot.

by Armilus » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:45 pm

Zach wrote:this thread isn't over.


What are you in an action movie or something?
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Re: Fix Molten Core loot.

by Imbaslap » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:47 pm

Zach wrote:
Imbaslap wrote:you should make a video of disenchanting / vendoring all paladin gear and post it on the forums... :^)

We're not sure if that's the best idea because we don't know their policy on exchanging it.

well, I can't say for sure. but any mislooting issue that has happened was given with the "sorry, better luck next time" response.

I doubt they will do exchanges though. so who knows. I just want to see them ret pally tears flow.
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Re: Fix Molten Core loot.

by Zach » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:49 pm

Imbaslap wrote:
Zach wrote:
Imbaslap wrote:you should make a video of disenchanting / vendoring all paladin gear and post it on the forums... :^)

We're not sure if that's the best idea because we don't know their policy on exchanging it.

well, I can't say for sure. but any mislooting issue that has happened was given with the "sorry, better luck next time" response.

I doubt they will do exchanges though. so who knows. I just want to see them ret pally tears flow.

It is my understanding they would 100% do exchanges because Paladin gear is not supposed to drop for Horde.
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Re: Fix Molten Core loot.

by Imbaslap » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:51 pm

I hope so Zach. :)
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Re: Fix Molten Core loot.

by Cataclysm » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:49 pm

So since we're all back to being civil... I still encourage anyone to look up shit, or find any old posts or proof or anything regarding ALL items between 1.0 and 1.7 or so. I don't mind looking into BWL and the surrounding items if there is anything that needs to be cleared up.
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Re: Fix Molten Core loot.

by Armilus » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:57 pm

Cataclysm wrote:So since we're all back to being civil... I still encourage anyone to look up shit, or find any old posts or proof or anything regarding ALL items between 1.0 and 1.7 or so. I don't mind looking into BWL and the surrounding items if there is anything that needs to be cleared up.


There shouldn't be any items added to BWL after release, feel free to check it out though.

One thing I would like to look into is the drop chance of items off the 3 drakes. On most servers the non-set items that drop off all 3 drakes have the same drop chance as the items that only drop off a single drake. This means that items like rejuvenating gem is 3x more common than drakefang talisman.

The best theory I've seen is that between all 3 drakes at least 2 pairs of gloves will drop. If a boss doesn't drop any gloves it will drop 1 item from the non-set shared loot table and 1 item from the boss specific non-set loot table. Can't remember what happens when a boss drops one pair of gloves, I think it's random if the 2nd item is from the shared loot table or the boss specific.

I went through a bunch of old BWL videos and noted the drops from the 3 drakes, will post it later when I'm at home.

Edit: Posted this earlier but it got lost in all the feces. The drop rates of boss specific non-set items in MC should be investigated as well. Items like striker's mark and aurastone hammer are pretty rare if they have the same drop chance as crap like flamewaker legplates that drop off multiple bosses. This might be blizz-like though, not sure.
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Re: Fix Molten Core loot.

by Cataclysm » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:44 pm

Flamewaker Legplates are 1.4 though, so the drop chance for items like Striker's Mark is highly increased.

EDIT: ah i see what you mean. Well, it even showed up in 5mans that we ran, that the items that were removed would simply bump up the other items to drop more often. Basically bosses were scripted to drop a certain amount of items, and will do so no matter how rare the items is. This might actually mean that stuff like Eye of Ragnaros is more common.
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Re: Fix Molten Core loot.

by Armilus » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:44 am

I mainly mean for going forward. Once all the 1.4 and 1.5 loot is out, what should the drop rate be on Striker's mark versus flamewaker or whatever.
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Re: Fix Molten Core loot.

by Solmyr » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:47 am

Armilus wrote:I'm more interested in the drop chances of boss specific non-set items, such as Aurastone Hammer, Striker's Mark, etc.

On most servers these items have the same drop chance as any other item on the that bosses loot table (including the non-set items that drop off multiple bosses). This makes them very rare.

From looking at allakhazam (which is kind of terrible for accurate drop chances) it looks like these items should have a higher drop chance than the non-set items that drop off multiple bosses. Can't find any accurate data to nail down a drop rate or even prove that they should have a higher drop rate :(

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Re: Fix Molten Core loot.

by Armilus » Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:15 pm

Solmyr wrote:
Armilus wrote:I'm more interested in the drop chances of boss specific non-set items, such as Aurastone Hammer, Striker's Mark, etc.

On most servers these items have the same drop chance as any other item on the that bosses loot table (including the non-set items that drop off multiple bosses). This makes them very rare.

From looking at allakhazam (which is kind of terrible for accurate drop chances) it looks like these items should have a higher drop chance than the non-set items that drop off multiple bosses. Can't find any accurate data to nail down a drop rate or even prove that they should have a higher drop rate :(

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That's what I assume but having a hard time figuring them out. If you know something please post.
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