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How executives of Nos know who is multiboxing?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:23 pm
by Stilgaron
As Diametra said, the problem only occurs when one person decides to multibox, i.e.: taking two or more accounts and sets one of them to /follow the other for help questing or farming dungeons.


So how GMs knows for example if it's my brother boosting me through low level dungeon or it's me only boosting myself with laptop next to me? Really curious!

Re: How executives of Nos know who is multiboxing?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:46 pm
by Robotron
"My brother" = you.

Re: How executives of Nos know who is multiboxing?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:52 pm
by Stilgaron
Robotron wrote:"My brother" = you.


The question was - "how they know if it's me or anyone else playing next to me?" GMs use their Force powers to "feel" that is one person playing for two characters or what?
Lets try to imagine situation:
- One have two computers at home, both have different accounts with different characters on it.
- One logs in into both of them and start to boost character from one account (comp1) with help of character from other account (comp2) lets say in Deadmines. High level player clears, low level slowly follows (with out /follow command, with "hands"). As I understand it's states as multi-boxing and bannable, everything clear here. BUT........ How the hell they know who is sitting next to comp2? My wife? My bro? I'm by myself? Because if it's my wife/mate/bro/cat it's NOT bannable, right?
I've looked through forum and have not find anything which explains it.
(Sorry for my English, not my native language)

Re: How executives of Nos know who is multiboxing?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:05 pm
by AverageJoe
It's pretty easy to tell who's multiboxing in general. Not just for GMs, but for any typical player.

If "your brother" is boosting you through low level dungeons, you'll each be in full control of your own characters, i.e.: "your brother's" character will be running around nonstop killing mobs while your character is either helping him kill mobs or looting everything.

If it was a multiboxer doing the above, the lower level character would be set to /follow the higher level character throughout the whole instance and the higher level would round up mobs, kill everything, then stand still while the player switched to the other character to begin looting everything, i.e.: you'd only see activity from one character at a time, never both simultaneously.

Re: How executives of Nos know who is multiboxing?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:42 am
by Zeeb
This is the Nostalrius definition of multiboxing from ToU.

Multiboxing refers to playing multiple separate characters simultaneously. This can either be achieved by using multiple separate machines to run the game or by running multiple separate instances of the game. It is against the rules to /follow level characters, run dungeons or raids with multiple characters, PvP with multiple characters, etc.

They can see that 2 characters are on the same IP and also no where it says who is controlling other character. You had 2 separate machines, and were running dungeon with multiple characters so that qaulifies you for the ban.

Re: How executives of Nos know who is multiboxing?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:58 am
by Stilgaron
Zeeb wrote:This is the Nostalrius definition of multiboxing from ToU.

Multiboxing refers to playing multiple separate characters simultaneously. This can either be achieved by using multiple separate machines to run the game or by running multiple separate instances of the game. It is against the rules to /follow level characters, run dungeons or raids with multiple characters, PvP with multiple characters, etc.

They can see that 2 characters are on the same IP and also no where it says who is controlling other character. You had 2 separate machines, and were running dungeon with multiple characters so that qaulifies you for the ban.


There is nothing in ToU about "2 characters are on the same IP is bannable", and even more - as far as I understand Nos allows you to play 3! accounts at the same IP (read it somewhere yesterday). The only bannable case is when one person use it simultaneously.
Ok, here is my logic - a lot of ppl want to play with their friends, and this is usual occasion when you have two machines at home and what to play with someone. Like in my case - I want to play with my wife, but I dont want to be banned just for boosting of her hunter through elite quests and some low level dungeons. For example, as I understand from posts above, my wife NEEDS to move/run/loot at the same time with me just to not to be banned mistakenly?? And if she wants to piss? That's hilarious....

As a player I want to understand states of Multi-boxing in such case:
1. Can I boost someone through dungeon? (I suppose answer is yes)
2. Can I boost someone through dungeon at the same IP? (I suppose answer is yes if in NOT multi-boxing)

Anyone from Nos team can confirm here?

Re: How executives of Nos know who is multiboxing?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:09 am
by kovenant
it is simple actually, and as stated in several posts made by GM's as well as administration;

You can boost someone on the same IP through a dungeon.
When your wife is on bio break, just make sure there is no reason to believe that it can be multiboxing.
for example to switch character to move one more into position for the loot/exp.
switching between characters is THE easy way to see if a person is multiboxing or not.

constant on follow, delay between characters casting spells and attacks and crappy movement are al indicators that someone is multiboxing.

the excuse people use like "my wife is on the toilet" is fine.
toilet breaks don't last for 5 - 10 minutes and GM's can track you for a lot longer time than that.

you can boost someone through a dungeon as long as each character is being controlled by another human.
that goes for both questions.

Re: How executives of Nos know who is multiboxing?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:08 am
by Stilgaron
kovenant wrote:it is simple actually, and as stated in several posts made by GM's as well as administration;

You can boost someone on the same IP through a dungeon.
When your wife is on bio break, just make sure there is no reason to believe that it can be multiboxing.
for example to switch character to move one more into position for the loot/exp.
switching between characters is THE easy way to see if a person is multiboxing or not.

constant on follow, delay between characters casting spells and attacks and crappy movement are al indicators that someone is multiboxing.

the excuse people use like "my wife is on the toilet" is fine.
toilet breaks don't last for 5 - 10 minutes and GM's can track you for a lot longer time than that.

you can boost someone through a dungeon as long as each character is being controlled by another human.
that goes for both questions.


Thank you, thats makes more sense for me right now!