Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

Quoting Daemon:

About 5 accounts have been banned for exploiting this bug, that is fixed now.
These accounts were doing it at an "industrial level" (gathering these same nodes way more than 500 times a week !) and thus gathering a lot of gold/items in a very little period of time.

my emphasis.

Can we pleaase get a confirmation that mining nodes is OK now? I might be a bit paranoid and autistic but hell, I just want to know if there is any limit to the amount of nodes that a player is entitled to mine or whats the deal now. Are we free to mine as much as possible in silithus?

That bug is gone, but the only advice to give you I suppose would be what has already been said:

In such a situation, where you find a trick to get a *lot* of money (or important advantage) in a very short period of time, you should always ask a GM if it is legit before starting abusing it, since you may get banned for doing it afterwards.
-Daemon

What is a lot in a short period?

At what Gold/Hour ratio should I be worried?

In such a situation, where you find a trick to get a *lot* of money (or important advantage) in a very short period of time

Seriously? A handful of mining nodes every 45 minutes is not "a very short period of time". You could get way, way more Thorium by just going around the zone and mining normally. Are they going to ban people for mining normally, next?

"industrial level"
"a *lot*"
"important advantage"
"very short period of time"

What do these things have in common? They are judgement calls. Your judgement may not be the same as a GM's judgement. And sucks to be you if that's the case.

Daemon and Viper suggest we open a ticket every time we come across something that might fall into this category before "abusing" it (another judgement) since you may get banned for it. This is neither realistic nor reasonable, since different people have different levels of what they consider to be too good to be true. And others aren't familiar with vanilla from retail, so don't know when something is not supposed to be there.

gotmilk0112 wrote:

In such a situation, where you find a trick to get a *lot* of money (or important advantage) in a very short period of time

Seriously? A handful of mining nodes every 45 minutes is not "a very short period of time". You could get way, way more Thorium by just going around the zone and mining normally. Are they going to ban people for mining normally, next?

what's your problem realy? the GMs already said they were farming 500 of the same nodes per week, that's 70~ NODES PER DAY. Some people (5 people) were banned for doing this, not normal people who were just mining in silithus.

Yeah for sure not like this guy.
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=21515

Or this guy.
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=21457

This is what I defend, people who abuse fixed spawn timers deserve the ban, you realize that on ED I had a guy in my guild who controled a shitton of BL spawns, he made ALOT of gold, now think how much gold sells for in nostalrius and we aren't really talking about virtual currency, there's people who are abusing fixed spawns ( I'm sure that other nodes are on fixed spawns aswell ) and making a huge profit out of it, ruining the chance for normal gatherers to get those nodes, in turn reducing the amount of gold the average gatherer will gain just for pure private profit (Ingame or IRL).

Everyone with the knowledge of a fixed spawn that doesn't report it to GMs, and ACTIVELY abuses it deserves a perma ban for exploiting, if you can't understand that this is different than DM farming / Mara farming / tribute farm or even normal gathering you are delusional or purposly not seing the bigger picture, maybe because it doesn't suit you, where I'm from we have an expression, roughly translated : "Each one see's what they want" and thats exactly how I view the people protesting against these bans, there are however things that the nost staff is at fault, 1st is by not fixing the spawns, 2nd by not making this CRYSTAL CLEAR.

All these attempts to try and make this look like something it isn't are pathetic, I truly hope nost doesn't unban anyone who actually abused / abuses this problems, you ruin the server economy, you ruin the chance for other people to gather the spawns.

To the people saying 45mins is blizzlike that's the most bullshit thing I ever heard, along the years of WoW blizz made more and more measures to ensure that stuff like this woulnd't happen, and that's precisely why the gold selling market has been dying for some years now, (in TBC / Wrath the lotus of the expansions were rare drops from high level herbalism picks in order to combat this).

If after this you don't understand, then you need to get your head out of your ass.

Arcane Crystal clear. We must industriouly mine to reach our dreams!

Darkwinjax wrote:Everyone with the knowledge of a fixed spawn that doesn't report it to GMs, and ACTIVELY abuses it deserves a perma ban for exploiting

All rare spawn mobs (like Broken Tooth) have a fixed spawn time too, should the Nostalrius staff ban any hunter who has a rare pet tamed? I bet you'd love that, wouldn't you?