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Mods deleting posts for falsified reasons

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:23 pm
by jimstanky
In the official announcement thread [Website & forum behaviors] I recently made a serious, on topic post that was falsely flagged as "spam, insults, nonsense". I spent well over 30 minutes on a post that I made sure was completely void of any reason to get it taken down; only to have it deleted by a mod who in their own opinion, didn't agree with what was written. I think this should be taken very seriously as its a slippery slope on how much power mods actually have. It's a pretty widely accepted concept around the civilized world, that censoring something because you don't agree with it is a HUGE no no.

Re: Mods deleting posts for falsified reasons

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:03 pm
by Uzephi
https://www.tuleap.org/about-tuleap/overview Tuleap is a bugtracking program, kind of like jira. They have no control over it's security. Imagine this forum software. Same thing, but a little different as forum software is closed source and cannot be picked apart. Tuleap does not tell the site owner of any security breaches like most forum softwares do.

On to the reason you had your post edited (I was able to read it before it was edited). You were insulting not only staff, but other people for your own security flaw: using same login info on another entity. When you logged into Tuleap, was anything on the page (other than the web address) signifying this was solely ran and operated by Nostalrius? Below is quoted from the TOU. This isn't America and freedom of speech isn't here. You turn your soft cloth into 80 grit sandpaper and your post would be edited. Then again, almost every post you put on here has been going against the grain. (as seen with a quick look here)

Nostalrius Begins can't allow all kinds of discussion on the forum. The forum is here to provide you with a friendly environment where you can discuss ideas, give game-play advice, role-play, and converse about any other aspect with other players. Community forums work best when participants treat their fellow users with respect, courtesy and common decency.
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Nostalrius staff reserves the right to delete, move or edit any post with or without warning nor explanation to the user. In extreme cases, Nostalrius staff may limit or block the forum access from a user.

https://en.nostalrius.org/terms-of-use
Part I subsection E.

Re: Mods deleting posts for falsified reasons

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:22 am
by jimstanky
Tuleap


If you read my post, the main concern wasn't tuleap's security directly, but rather how Nostalrius is handling the situation. I've seen several posts today showing what methods hackers could use to hack tuleap, yet here we are today where the first thing you see when you log onto nostalrius is report bugs to report.nostalrius.org. My response was merely asking questions like why can't that message be changed to something about accounts being compromised and needing a password change. It's just frustrating to know that if I saw one message telling me to change my info; it would have saved me hundreds of hours of my time. Even more frustrating that nostalrius is not taking as many reasonable steps as it can to prevent this from happening to other players.

On to the reason you had your post edited (I was able to read it before it was edited). You were insulting
There were absolutely no insults in that post and I made sure of it (my earlier posts in that thread, that are still there, are much more vulgar tbh) I hope we won't need a discussion on how being offended by something and directly insulting someone are two very different things.

your own security flaw
Funny how you try to blame all of this on me(im such a le retard for using the same acc info on report.nostalrius.org xD xD heh3hehe!!!11), yet completely fail to mention how pottu admits (the thread is still up, so no need to try to lie about this one as well) that nostalrius had just recently made their website log in brute force-proof, only after they noticed someone had actively been brute forcing acc info. Its baffling that nostalrius knows and admits this, yet are still refusing to do anything to help people that were hacked as a result.

Then again, almost every post you put on here has been going against the grain. (as seen with a quick look here)
Congrats on finding out what I made this forum account for!!!!11

I can't reiterate this enough, but I am way more upset by how nostalrius is actively handling this situation than anything that was stolen for me.... and that's saying a lot..

Re: Mods deleting posts for falsified reasons

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:09 am
by Uzephi
jimstanky wrote:Funny how you try to blame all of this on me(im such a le retard for using the same acc info on report.nostalrius.org xD xD heh3hehe!!!11)


right there shows your irrationality. If the report tracker was ran and completely operated by the Nost team, it would have you already in there. Since you had to make a new login on a site with an outdated security certificate, it was your fault not knowing basic internet security 101.

Next thing is if they made a github or JIRA tracker and that had the hole, you'd blame them responsible as well? Tuleap =/= Nostalrius. The whole time they are saying it is an outside source with duplicated login credentials. Tuleap is an outside entity.

/thread inb4 lock. good day enjoy what time you have left as you're too thick skulled to know this wasn't their doing. The "brute force" you are talking about was due to some login database that got leaked and after a rainbow table was done, they tried all logins and passwords on the results. Not them trying multiple passwords on one account. That would lock the account.

Re: Mods deleting posts for falsified reasons

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:27 am
by Nathrizyr
Greetings,

Funny; you can Google everything to blame us, however you fail to follow the top result in Google when it comes to account security: use unique passwords. This is your last warning to stop making spam and/or misleading posts, otherwise your forum account will be suspended.

Regards, GM Team