Honor misscalculation

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Honor misscalculation

by Undetka » Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:55 pm

Hello, got 165k honor last week, 102 standing but didnt get promote rank 7 to 8, in same time my mate wo got 60k honor get promote to rank 7 and 60% rank 8. I am curios if its ranking misscalculation or smthm aince 160k should be more then enough getting r8.
Last edited by Undetka on Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:13 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Honor miaacalculation

by Youfie » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:09 pm

Are you two in the same faction?
Where you two at the same point in your progression the previous week?
What was the weekly standing of your friend?

Basically, you suggest that your mate was lower than R7, while you were above R7, causing your decay to be twice as much as his. That would be my guess, but some of the other elements mentioned above could have had an influence on your ranks too :).
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Re: Honor miaacalculation

by Uzephi » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:40 pm

"Note though, that there is a rank promotion limit, which is due to the fact that you simply cannot earn more than a certain amount total rank each week, plus your total rank decays by 20% each week. A rank 0 (pre-private) can earn at most 13000 RP, which would put him in the middle of rank 4. A rank 5 (with the minimum 15000 RP) can also earn 13000 RP but will lose 3000 RP to decay, so his new rank will be barely 7 (25000 RP)."

http://www.wowwiki.com/Honor_system_%28pre-2.0%29

There is a cap on contribution points no matter how much honor you accumulated. You probably hit your CP cap and was lower on the ranking scale than he was.
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Re: Honor miaacalculation

by Undetka » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:58 pm

Yes we are same faction, i was rank 7 (so it shopuld be capped), he was rank 6 but progression bar to rank 8 for me is abot 95% and for him 60%
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Re: Honor misscalculation

by Youfie » Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:42 am

160k should be more than enough
Well, Honor in itself doesn't matter, everything is about Weekly Standing.
50k / week might be enough to reach R14 if your competitors do less, while you might be unable to reach R6 with 500k / week if most of your faction does more ;).

To be able to know without possible error if there was a bug or not, we'd need to know the standing of you & your friend and your exact progression into R7 & 6 before the Honor update, the exact number of ranked players for that week in your faction, and the standing break-points used by the staff to award Rank Points - since they said the ones from 1.12 aren't used to slow down rank progression, but older ones.

A lot of factors to take into account, we can't really conclude anything from the sole information you made available to us :(.
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Re: Honor misscalculation

by Undetka » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:13 am

well i was about 250 standing last week my progression was about 5% to rank 8. his standing was about 600 and 80% porgression to rank 7. other info isnt availible for me (
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Re: Honor misscalculation

by Youfie » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:17 am

We can never know for sure unless we have all information, but my guess would be that the difference in progression between you two was caused by your decay equal to 20% of your total RP, while your friend's was only 10% since he was below R7. This is twice as much and it seems to fits the situation you described.

Regarding your Standing, it seems indeed fine for R8 (altough I don't know but eh, if we have like 2-3k ranked players in each faction and WS 102 isn't enough to get to R8, R14 might be impossible ^^), which means it's enough to beat decay every week and thus if you get the same WS everyweek, assuming a constant number of ranked players in your faction, it will grant you progression each week and will allow you to reach R8.

But it doesn't guarantee a to attain a certain rank a given week. In the meantime, if you want to progress faster, you just need a better standing.


I know there are some assumptions, but that what it looks like to me, hope this helps :)
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Re: Honor misscalculation

by Uzephi » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:26 am

Youfie wrote:Regarding your Standing, it seems indeed fine for R8 (altough I don't know but eh, if we have like 2-3k ranked players in each faction and WS 102 isn't enough to get to R8, R14 might be impossible ^^), which means it's enough to beat decay every week and thus if you get the same WS everyweek, assuming a constant number of ranked players in your faction, it will grant you progression each week and will allow you to reach R8.


The only time you can get a guarantee increase in rank is when you are "enlisted" which is r1-5. There can only be so many % officers on the server (r6-14). The higher the rank, the lower % can be that rank. Maybe you were really close on knocking someone off rank 8 to rank 7 but he got higher standing.
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Re: Honor misscalculation

by Undetka » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:56 pm

Well i cant believe that 102 standing couldnt pass to at least 10% of all ally chars that pvped last week, to get rank
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Re: Honor misscalculation

by Uzephi » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:58 pm

Undetka wrote:Well i cant believe that 102 standing couldnt pass to at least 10% of all ally chars that pvped last week, to get rank


With all the bans going out, I wouldn't be surprised. Let's do some math: 10% of 1000 would be 100. Now let me log in and look at my census data for people above level 30 (as only a small percentage below 30 would have a rank higher than Corporal.) Roughly 1800 players are above level 30 with a weeks worth of statistics.

I found something odd when I was online as well... at level 33 it said I have a standing of 15 O.o so the standing system is obviously either broken or going off your level bracket and not the server as a whole.
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