Gz Hordes, you've won the game.

[OhNo]

Lol vathdaar, hilarious how you instantly turned the subject from pug vs pug (as OP clearly stated) to how your notorious premade stomp horde pugs.

Do you see Cristiano Ronaldo playing in Random team just for the sake of balance? If we have our good stable/solid premade running thats what we like, we only ask horde to man up and fight us for once or twice

Are you implying you're the pvp equivalent of Ronaldo?
Either way that argument is retarded since Ronaldo literally plays against "premades" every week, not random pugs. If you step out of that premade and play pug vs pug, you will get stomped the vast majority of the time, as OP were saying.

So ITT: OP is continuing the endless and therefore pointless topic of Alliance pugs crying about Horde pugs stomping them, and Hordes pugs crying about Alliance premades stomping them, and vathdaar grabs the oppertunity to stroke his e-peen.

+You also won't see Ronaldo trolling a player from Cordoba (last place on the spanish league) by shouting at him "get pro m8" while he's (Ronadlo) playing in Real Madrid.

That being said, you kinda missed the point of this topic. Hordes pugs should'nt even cry about being owned by Alliance premades (again, how many Ally premades are even exsits beside Playing Dirty/NOPE?), and so does the Alliance.

But when it comes to pug vs pug Ally shouldn't be owned that hard (1-4? 2-3 without capping a 3rd base for the whole game? come on...)

[OhNo]

The biggest problem I see is that in PUGs, the alliance rarely starts the game with a full squad of 10 - 15 people depending on the BG. For every alliance that joins, 2 horde join to match it. I've never been in a pug game where the alliance out numbers the horde. And the problem there is when alliance finally gets a full team, the horde are already ahead by a sizable amount, so the people that join late don't give a shit and hide somewhere to get the free mark.

its either alliance are outnumbered (and a lot of the times outmatched too) or its a 15v15 and we rarely win even when its fair in numbers.

That's a critical point I didn't mentioned, and it has a simple reasson (and i'm saying it as an Ally):
When Ally pug sees more than 3 or 4 ranks 7-9 hordes, they quickly dodge to WSG, thinking it's a premade and there's no chance to win the game.When other players gets in to replace those chickens it's already too late as the Hordes got 4 bases.

[Krinkov]

another problem is alliance is sooo pussy everythere in pvp bgs and wpvp

u see a friendly alliance fight vs multiple? give them a hand not just run past

the good thing is the coward got killed 5 seconds later didnt even fight back and died like an(alliance ) bitch

its a shame to even play on alliance and idont mean RP bullshit cuz I don't RP its the people that play ugh ..rats at least horde has a herd team mentality


this hasn't happened once..so far this has happened over 7 times in an hour. Bunch of subhuman cowards

[Viciouz]

Surely it's more of an issue of selective perception. Though I do think it's fair to say that Horde pugs are winning more Arathi Basins than Alliance Pugs. On the other hand I think it's fair to say Alliance Pugs do tend to win Warsong Gulch more often due to how strong Paladin support is.

As for the premades stomping poor PUGers like myself, I'd say it's best to just uh... lie back and think of England

[Snautz]

That being said, you kinda missed the point of this topic. Hordes pugs should'nt even cry about being owned by Alliance premades (again, how many Ally premades are even exsits beside Playing Dirty/NOPE?), and so does the Alliance.

How am I missing any point? I just pointed out that discussing this particular PvP topic will never change anything, I completely understand the frustration everyone, except for the few premades that are already miles ahead on gear have with the current pvp situation.
My experience as horde is no matter what time of the day you log on, you're gonna meet the same premades, except for the few hours when most EU and US players sleep, but in those hours the queues are massive and most of the time you get into nearly empty bgs where you just gotta cap fast before the bg closes again. So the only solution to the problem would either be quitting your job/your entire real life and start running 9-14 hour bgs every day to be able to compete with those premades (I'll pass on that one ), or if alliance suddenly got a massive spike in PVP players, which is something I doubt would ever happen.

[Crooked Creek]

gfgdfgg

[vathdaar]

http://i.imgur.com/NKhhNc8.jpg

i like how you "try" to cover his name but still let his name above him, well done.

[Viciouz]

http://i.imgur.com/NKhhNc8.jpg

i like how you "try" to cover his name but still let his name above him, well done.

[Zygoth]

What's all this crying about horde racials that I see nowadays? That wasn't a thing during retail vanilla. Do stoneform, perception, escape artist, and fear ward not work on this server or something?

[Amerigo]

its a shame to even play on alliance and idont mean RP bullshit cuz I don't RP its the people that play ugh ..rats at least horde has a herd team mentality

Alliance = rats and Horde = sheep. Good to know. At least one of us knows how to get off a sinking ship, I guess.

As for your hilarious anecdote, I wouldn't necessarily be proud that I 3v1'd a guy and others on his faction avoided my unsporting conduct. Not that I don't happily gank in a group, I'm just not stupid enough to think it's a point of pride is all. I also am not stupid enough to think that group behavior is exclusive to my color of nametag, nor would I think that single targets avoiding hostile groups is exclusive to another color.