There is a serious problem with the Account Issues forum

[Vanillerific]

My suggestion is that threads in Account Issues be made read only to everyone but the OP.

This is a snippet from a post in my account issues thread detailing the issue:

There is a serious problem with the account issues forum. This started as a thread where I inqured as to why I was banned and asked the staff to look into it. The only relevant information was what had been posted by me. Whoever thought I was botting already made their ticket and gave all relevant information to the GMs. That is the point at which their involvement in the matter should end.

Suddenly, 4 other people show up in the thread. One of these (yadungoofed) was a self proclaimed exploiter who was stealing other's gold via a malicious add-on he distributed. Another (NOanswerfrommod) is someone who got banned for exploiting (sniping the auction house) and is of course claiming his innocence: "that was an assumption on me, and i am trying to prove them wrong by giving them information needed right now " But obviously he knows for certain that I was in the wrong: "GM's DO happen to ban people on hunches, I can give you some examples even. This one however was not a hunch." Oh...and his account was created yesterday. Why didn't he post from the same account that he used for his account issues inquiry? Afraid that I might go there and start saying I know for a fact that he's guilty because he sniped the auctions of 5 of my friends? Apparently he knows how this place works.

The other 2 (Vorfidus and Glenzig don't seem to have been banned themselves for any kind of exploitation, but if you look at what all 4 of these posters have in common it's that the majority of each users posts is in the "Account Issues" forum. Unless they have an account issue, why do they spend so much time posting here?

The posts of these 4 only extended the length of the thread and fill it with conjecture and complete misinformation:

Lol he is so mad. If you look up his character, hes geared as shit. Kid thought it was OKAY to sit in Ironforge, botting. Even put a message " EDIT : Going for pizza, feel free to trade, AFK "

Actually that wasn't me. Once again a case of baseless accusations by anonymous forum posters. That was Samgry. A very nice mage from Pleasuretown Adventures whom I consider a friend.

Many people use this addon. None of us knew that WoW addons from retail vanilla were bannable.

So you end up with a request for inquiry, misinformation, false accusations, people trolling with "Read the ToU and enjoy your ban" (which says nothing about bannable in-game addons), and people screaming about how the trade addon you used was against the rules who apparently never played Vanilla WoW for a day in their lives (because they probably weren't born yet) and so obviously don't know what addons were legal back then.

There is nothing about this forum section that is fair to the person having an account issue. My issue was ruled on based on what others (who have nothing to do with my problem whatsoever) have posted. It's very apparent that the GM didn't bother to even visit the link I posted for the add-on in question and simply jumped on the bandwagon of haters. This whole thread has been nothing but a kangaroo court. The forum should only allow replies from the OP.

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=23440

[Mimma]

If you don't want others to reply, just write a private mail to the GMs.

[Arev]

If you don't want others to reply, just write a private mail to the GMs.

[Vanillerific]

I didn't realize that was even an option. The threads all state that you need to make a post.

It doesn't really matter now for me. What's done is done. I'm not sure what 3rd party software it is that I've been accused of using because no one will actually say. I only ran a WoW client with WoW addons. I'm sure that nothing was detected and I was banned for the combination of a hunch and public opinion.

I really do believe that the Account Issues forum procedures are broken though and need to be reviewed and modified. Good luck to those of you with issues in the future.

[Pokeypointy]

The thing is, we don't believe you when you say "no 3rd party software" and many of us are inclined to believe that you stayed online through automated movement. Honestly there's so much posting in the account issues that crowd collecting some of the information never hurts, the gm's and admin's will use any and all information they can gather before calling judgement. This includes everything relevant said within the thread.

[Armilus]

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_2.0.1/API_changes

Trade related functions were not protected until 2.0.1 and there was no protected functions prior to 1.10 so the "programmer" in the locked thread is an idiot.

[Jestah]

The thing is, we don't believe you when you say "no 3rd party software" and many of us are inclined to believe that you stayed online through automated movement. Honestly there's so much posting in the account issues that crowd collecting some of the information never hurts, the gm's and admin's will use any and all information they can gather before calling judgement. This includes everything relevant said within the thread.

He gave out water and food... Also, I do believe him. They banned him for a Addon simply enough. Someone cried because they didn't get their way and he was caught in the cross-fire. If this was really a botting program, he would have been actually banned weeks ago. If such Addon were an illegal thing, websites such as Cursedgaming wouldn't even have it in their database to download.

[Suzumiya]

The mods seems a bit too ban happy. I'm so sorry this happened to you, Vanillerific.

What is really screwed up is they don't even provide details on why someone was banned, just generic statements like "bot", "exploit", "scamming", etc. When police arrest a person and have them placed in jail/prison those records become public knowledge to not do so would be akin to running a fascist dictatorship. That Nazi analogy people keep throwing around is starting to not sound so crazy.

[Jestah]

I'm guessing a lot more people are going to get banned for using this "Addon", Because the majority of raids I've been in, there'a always one Mage with it. I guess next they're going to ban trading food and water, even if you're doing it yourself, while recording with fraps.

[Glenzig]

The mods seems a bit too ban happy. I'm so sorry this happened to you, Vanillerific.

What is really screwed up is they don't even provide details on why someone was banned, just generic statements like "bot", "exploit", "scamming", etc. When police arrest a person and have them placed in jail/prison those records become public knowledge to not do so would be akin to running a fascist dictatorship. That Nazi analogy people keep throwing around is starting to not sound so crazy.

You should start a court of pixel rights.