Possible adding a Second Server?

[PanTheSatyr]

It was in the same sentence....

[Kromulous]

NO
The massive population is why half the people here play here instead of other servers

Exactly. Finally someone with common sense.

It'd be an interesting experiment to open a PvE realm and see what kind of balance you'd get between the two realms...

Yeah, an interesting experiment. Let's waste time and development with another realm, so the population will scatter and eventually get to 1k players per realm. Such an awesome experiment.

Yeah instead let's just have a 35 yard draw distance in the open world at all times every day.
No idea why the pop cap for the server is so high anyway. Weren't vanilla retail realms capped at 4k before a queue pops up?

[Frijole]

I would love to see another server that had lower ping for players in the Americas (perhaps not in US for legal reasons but closer than the current server? (mexico /canada/ islands?) I really dont know about the feasibility but I am spoiled from my 23ms retail ping and the 150ms nostalrius ping almost completely kills the game for me ( and probably most US players which want to be competitive)

[Xef]

NO
The massive population is why half the people here play here instead of other servers

Exactly. Finally someone with common sense.

It'd be an interesting experiment to open a PvE realm and see what kind of balance you'd get between the two realms...

Yeah, an interesting experiment. Let's waste time and development with another realm, so the population will scatter and eventually get to 1k players per realm. Such an awesome experiment.

Yes because if the people who'd want to be on a more quiet Nost server would leave the one with 7.5k people on it, would mean both of the servers would end up with 1k pop. Makes sense. But I agree, it'd probably just be a waste of developers time.

I would love to see another server that had lower ping for players in the Americas (perhaps not in US for legal reasons but closer than the current server? (mexico /canada/ islands?) I really dont know about the feasibility but I am spoiled from my 23ms retail ping and the 150ms nostalrius ping almost completely kills the game for me ( and probably most US players which want to be competitive)

Come on man. So not only do you want to get another server, but you also want them to physically move the server to north america? Just like that? Just so your ping would go down from 150ms..

[Yarumasi]

It is quickly becoming a reality that a second server would be a good idea. North American most likely, due to two major factors

1. NA players have horrible ping. Depending on your location, you are getting 120-200 ping just based on distance alone. I know it's a bit difficult for PvE players to understand, but PvP is truly hard to skill matchup when a European players 15 ping gets into a fight against 120+.

2. Server load. Everytime the server gets around 6-7000 players the server buckles down hard and everyone gets lagging. Currently as I post this 8000 players are on and everyone is bitching about lag and the one minute login time. Any video game server anywhere will not be able to sustain such a huge load of playerbase, and once Nostalrius gets fixed up quite a bit I'm sure the population will be even more immense over time.

3. If we're talking about "the authentic vanilla experience", there was a player cap of 4000 people on a server if my memory serves right, which was perfect because it was near lagless at that stage.

4. The playerbase for a newly launched server is growing, and growing. You would think in one month the playerbase would drop off to weed out the people who hate leveling, but in reality it won't stop growing at a nice rate. You will not see a "split up playerbase".

5. Implementing cross-server PvP isn't going to take some astonishingly long time so what's the difference?

Let's face it, a second server is becoming inevitable for a lot of reasons. And before you attack me with ad hominem arguments, I'm not saying it would have to be PvE, the PvP format is fine. Cheers

[Imbaslap]

It is quickly becoming a reality that a second server would be a good idea. North American most likely, due to two major factors

1. NA players have horrible ping. Depending on your location, you are getting 120-200 ping just based on distance alone. I know it's a bit difficult for PvE players to understand, but PvP is truly hard to skill matchup when a European players 15 ping gets into a fight against 120+.

2. Server load. Everytime the server gets around 6-7000 players the server buckles down hard and everyone gets lagging. Currently as I post this 8000 players are on and everyone is bitching about lag and the one minute login time. Any video game server anywhere will not be able to sustain such a huge load of playerbase, and once Nostalrius gets fixed up quite a bit I'm sure the population will be even more immense over time.

3. If we're talking about "the authentic vanilla experience", there was a player cap of 4000 people on a server if my memory serves right, which was perfect because it was near lagless at that stage.

4. The playerbase for a newly launched server is growing, and growing. You would think in one month the playerbase would drop off to weed out the people who hate leveling, but in reality it won't stop growing at a nice rate. You will not see a "split up playerbase".

5. Implementing cross-server PvP isn't going to take some astonishingly long time so what's the difference?

Let's face it, a second server is becoming inevitable for a lot of reasons. And before you attack me with ad hominem arguments, I'm not saying it would have to be PvE, the PvP format is fine. Cheers

split the server, connect battlegrounds together via cross realm like it was before TBC release.
this is keeping with Vanilla in regards to patching and give it more of a cross battleground feel for the pvpers as well as creating a stable PVE environment.
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/Patch_1.12.0

put faction caps on the realms to prevent imbalance of players between realms.
allow character transfers / guild transfers with a cooldown.
mirror content and patch releases so it is not a stand alone server competing against eachother.

we can always try Vanilla wow with 15x respawn rates of mobs/mining nodes/ herb nodes/ quest objectives to account for such a high population, changing the flow of gameplay to a 15x server and not a 1x server.
apparently people don't want a true 1x server.

the sum of all the complaining about wanting a single extremely high population server was never designed for Vanilla WoW. (respawn rates/quest objectives/herbs/mining)


increasing (respawn rates/quest objectives/herbs/mining) would be changing a 1x realm to something more than that. faster ways to gain gold that was not even comprehendible during retail vanilla.

if population reaches over 10k players, it is time to do something. because now you're going to have to change the actual emulation of the game to account for something never intended when the game existed back in 2004-06, meaning changing the entirety of the 1x "blizzlike" emulation itself.

High population is great, but too high population makes it very very difficult to do anything in the world. and this issue will continue to grow with more population.

[Mdmadam]

Are we allowed to eventually take this to a vote?

[tuck3r]

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 570#p80117

[pinacolata]

ok guys, NO new realm, tell us your solution then.

[Kanbanor]

stable 5k players online, on sunday 8k....8k is too much for the world of warcraft!