Race Change

[Bioness]

While it isn't vanilla I don't see any problem with this being added. Certain external features like that would be nice.

That and I really regret my hairstyle.

[kaba]

I really don't understand all you retail boys asking for race change, free respec, name change, etc, etc.

This is a RPG; you create a character, you level and develop that character and you spend lots of time and dedication playing it. Changing race and whatnot when the character has already been developed is basically as anti-RPG you can get and is among all the "comfortable" additions by Blizzard that ruined the game.

[Bioness]

I really don't understand all you retail boys asking for race change, free respec, name change, etc, etc.

This is a RPG; you create a character, you level and develop that character and you spend lots of time and dedication playing it. Changing race and whatnot when the character has already been developed is basically as anti-RPG you can get and is among all the "comfortable" additions by Blizzard that ruined the game.

1) Vanilla isn't perfect

2) Get off your god damn high horse

3) No one is asking for free anything

4) I've heard a lot of reasons why this shouldn't be implemented, but quite frankly your argument on the basis of being true to an RPG is the biggest load of steaming horse shit I have ever read. There are HUNDREDS of RPGs that allow character customization after the initial recreation. Furthermore there are plenty of lore justifications on why your character might be able change.
- Hair Change/Barbershop is the most obvious, if you need an explanation go read the wikipedia article on what "hair" is
- Name Change, see Hair Change/Barbershop
- Race Change, quite simply...magic. There are dozens of quests in game where you are turned into another race or have your appearance altered. While these are temporary for in game purposes, there is no reason why magic users couldn't make the change permanent. The best example are the Dragons who are able to change their appearance without any difficulty. The easiest lore example would be a Human becoming a Forsaken or even reversed (see the quest The Lich, Ras Frostwhisper).
- Physical and biological change i.e. Character Recustomization, see Race Change
- Faction Change, for balance reasons I feel this would be the hardest to implement, not to mention all the coding required to make a smooth change without simply copy and pasting items/gold. I would personally just stop at Race Change, as a Faction Change in Vanilla just doesn't sit well.

Furthermore while Blizzard has certainly gone to far with certain changes (namely LFD/LFR and the overall lowering of the game's difficulty), you would be to dumb, deaf, blind, and severely mentally deficient to believe none of their changes improved the experience of the game (making all class specs viable, dual spec, turning pets/mounts into spells, and a GREATLY improved user interface and customization).

If someone wants to be part of a "true" RPG they can just not change their race, no one is holding a gun to their head forcing them to do it. If it doesn't affect you, why should you give a shit?

[mkvd]

Im up for this aslong as it doesnt include faction change. That would be a dealbreaker and increase fsction imbalance drastically, since a strong faction is like a magnet to hardcore players on the weak faction, hence, the situation would get worse.

This is a very good remark, changing faction indeed should not be allowed.

I really don't understand all you retail boys asking for race change, free respec, name change, etc, etc.

This is a RPG; you create a character, you level and develop that character and you spend lots of time and dedication playing it. Changing race and whatnot when the character has already been developed is basically as anti-RPG you can get and is among all the "comfortable" additions by Blizzard that ruined the game.

Not all that Blizzard implemented was bad, for example WoW 1.12.1. Don't you think that investing 200+ hours into leveling and about the same into gearing up is stupid if you for example only want your character to look different. Of course it was player's fault to choose wrong race at the first place but allowing to change race once per character doesn't ruin balance and doesn't make game easier. We are all old dogs here, some people just didn't remember the important things when they started playing on Nostalrius but that they knew before.

[kaba]

How about class change too? It would be really awesome if I could level as a hunter and then change to something else at 60. It wouldn't affect anyone else so why should anyone care?

And I changed my mind about race change, levling as a human and getting 10% extra reputation and that extra sword skill would be really neat for the gnome I plan to make for lvl 60 PvP.

Neat-o!

[Arael]

About name change, there is a reason.

Several of us joined here and found their favorite nickname taken by a "Never-Logged-In-Again" player which reserved that (and more) nicknames on level 1 chars (there is a reason if level 1 chars on private servers are more than level 2-9 summed together).

I hope one day there will be a DB cleanup (to improve performances too) and they would allow name change to remove these special characters used like "à" and more I don't even know how to write.

Anyway, I don't think it will ever happen... so...

[Bioness]

How about class change too? It would be really awesome if I could level as a hunter and then change to something else at 60. It wouldn't affect anyone else so why should anyone care?

And I changed my mind about race change, levling as a human and getting 10% extra reputation and that extra sword skill would be really neat for the gnome I plan to make for lvl 60 PvP.

Neat-o!

How about a brain change because yours is clearly deficient. No one ever mentions wanting a class change except fearmongers such as yourself (look up Slippery Slope logical fallacy). I shouldn't have to explain why a class change in this game is a terrible idea and would never work for the benefit of quality gameplay.

[kaba]

How about class change too? It would be really awesome if I could level as a hunter and then change to something else at 60. It wouldn't affect anyone else so why should anyone care?

And I changed my mind about race change, levling as a human and getting 10% extra reputation and that extra sword skill would be really neat for the gnome I plan to make for lvl 60 PvP.

Neat-o!

How about a brain change because yours is clearly deficient. No one ever mentions wanting a class change except fearmongers such as yourself (look up Slippery Slope logical fallacy). I shouldn't have to explain why a class change in this game is a terrible idea and would never work for the benefit of quality gameplay.

I take it the second paragraph is totally fine.

[mkvd]

How about class change too? It would be really awesome if I could level as a hunter and then change to something else at 60. It wouldn't affect anyone else so why should anyone care?

And I changed my mind about race change, levling as a human and getting 10% extra reputation and that extra sword skill would be really neat for the gnome I plan to make for lvl 60 PvP.

Neat-o!

How about a brain change because yours is clearly deficient. No one ever mentions wanting a class change except fearmongers such as yourself (look up Slippery Slope logical fallacy). I shouldn't have to explain why a class change in this game is a terrible idea and would never work for the benefit of quality gameplay.

I take it the second paragraph is totally fine.

The second paragraph makes some sense but solution for the issue is very simple though.
When race changed from human to non-human apply the following rule:
reputation = initial_reputation + (int)((reputation - initial_reputation) * (1.0f/1.1f));

[kaba]

The second paragraph makes some sense but solution for the issue is very simple though.
When race changed from human to non-human apply the following rule:
reputation = initial_reputation + (int)((reputation - initial_reputation) * (1.0f/1.1f));

You forgot removing all the gold saved by faction discounts during the time your now non-human wouldn't have had enough rep to get them. Might need to remove some mounts and BG rewards too.

You also forgot to recalculate every single battle the character has had to add glancing blows and increased miss rate. Maybe some items were gotten in battles were a non-human would've died.

When does it stop making sense?