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Re: Real worldbosses

by Zoey_Urbina » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:28 pm

There's no need for an answer, nor bumping a thread when it's already been sent to the bug tracker. The developers has hundreds of bugs to fix, and whether some require more attention than others is up to the staff that reads it and in the event something is urgent, they'll inform the developers themselves, with or without a confirmation on the forums. First finding the code responsible for the bug is difficult, not to mention writing new code to fix it without breaking something else. The developers here are humans who have family/school/jobs to take care of, therefore a very limited amount of time to spend developing. Requiring them to post whenever they start and/or finish working on a bug will reduce that limited time.
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Re: Real worldbosses

by Solmyr » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:57 pm

I like the current system. It allows you to identify the scumbags on the server (both individuals and guilds) and ostracize them. Even without a fix to this problem, the ongoing fiasco won't last much longer - top guilds have already discussed how to adapt to this bug and we have several solutions in a conceptual phase - all that remains is for them to be tested during the next several kills.

To the opportunists - enjoy stealing whatever kills you can. Every kill you steal brings you closer to complete isolation.
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Re: Real worldbosses

by Simonich » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:34 pm

I don't even care about pve, but this sounds like a serious issue.
This has to be a priority fix
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Re: Real worldbosses

by venven » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:46 am

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Re: Real worldbosses

by Envy » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:45 pm

Zoey_Urbina wrote:There's no need for an answer, nor bumping a thread when it's already been sent to the bug tracker. The developers has hundreds of bugs to fix, and whether some require more attention than others is up to the staff that reads it and in the event something is urgent, they'll inform the developers themselves, with or without a confirmation on the forums. First finding the code responsible for the bug is difficult, not to mention writing new code to fix it without breaking something else. The developers here are humans who have family/school/jobs to take care of, therefore a very limited amount of time to spend developing. Requiring them to post whenever they start and/or finish working on a bug will reduce that limited time.


You're right in the fact that they are humans, but not all of them are obviously aware of how the players experience the game, and it might help them to see what really is important. Whether you find it useful or not, this is a world-pvp-pve matter, which concerns pretty much everyone in top guilds competing for these kills.

As for the guy that likes the current system, I do not, it is not blizzlike & people won't be ostracized because of it, you're saying that you like the current bug but if someone uses it you'll quarantine him or something? That's just stupid, this bug is very problematic, because an alliance guild can steal a 20% boss to a horde guild.
And the fact that people can reset your mobs is stupid also, in so many ways. Think this through & realize how important it is to fix this, and therefore to get an answer about when it will be fixed (if ever.) Currently these encounters are silly, and every worldmob is affected by that.
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Re: Real worldbosses

by Solmyr » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:32 pm

Envy wrote:As for the guy that likes the current system, I do not, it is not blizzlike & people won't be ostracized because of it, you're saying that you like the current bug but if someone uses it you'll quarantine him or something? That's just stupid, this bug is very problematic, because an alliance guild can steal a 20% boss to a horde guild.
And the fact that people can reset your mobs is stupid also, in so many ways. Think this through & realize how important it is to fix this, and therefore to get an answer about when it will be fixed (if ever.) Currently these encounters are silly, and every worldmob is affected by that.

I am being mildly sarcastic - nobody likes bugs, that's a given, however I am choosing to look at the positive sides of having this bug, and these definitely including being able to see who of the community would exploit them.

One faction stealing from another is hardly a problem - opposing factions can easily deal with one another through the marvel that is world pvp. This bug is only annoying when same-faction people, whom you can't do anything about, steal from you. But there are workarounds even for that, as I mentioned in my previous post.
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Re: Real worldbosses

by Zoey_Urbina » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:11 pm

Envy wrote:but not all of them are obviously aware of how the players experience the game, and it might help them to see what really is important. Whether you find it useful or not, this is a world-pvp-pve matter, which concerns pretty much everyone in top guilds competing for these kills.


I might have made myself misunderstood. What I were trying to say is that the developers themselves probably don't read the forums much, and focuses more on the bug tracker. But each and every Staff member reads the same post every day, but only one might respond to it. In the event that the bug in question is severe enough to warrant a immediate notice to the developers, then they'll do so privately, without notifying us. Which is the correct way.
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Re: Real worldbosses

by Envy » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:10 pm

They have people constantly watching the forum to avoid troll, insults & such, these guys will report these matters to the 'higher ups'.
As for the 'you can deal with the other faction Solmyr, I do not agree, at the moment, the opposite faction just has to wait for the boss to be below 20%, wipe you out, and quickly finish it in less than 5 minutes, that is not how it should be, you should have enough time to come back, prepare if the opposite raid is not too big & engage them too. At the moment this is not possible, let the other guys do the work & take credit, that is, in my opinion once again, a very bad thing!

I mostly agree with both of your point of views too, but it's a very important matter & it's important to make them realize it. And it's a very bad thing Worldpvpve wise. For so many reasons, so yeah, you can see who the douchebags are, but I'd rather not. And the longest the bug is out there, the more people will feel like it's 'normal'.
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Re: Real worldbosses

by pmizz » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:27 pm

as someone who has not and will not compete for a world boss kill posibly ever, bump to fix this
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Re: Real worldbosses

by Thompz » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:35 pm

Yeah it's quite frustrating when a terrible guild like dank budz steals a kill on low% when in reality they would wipe for 5 hours if they actually had to kill it properly.
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