Introduce a penalty on grey kill pvp

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Re: Introduce a penalty on grey kill pvp

by Daide » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:07 pm

warcraftselblatt wrote:fixed. close thread.


LMAO, so smug.

warcraftselblatt wrote:you have the wrong mindset, this was never a problem, hence why it never needed to be fixed. leveling on a pvp server is supposed to have this challenge. Your suggestion to remove a part of the game, because you dont like it is, is a bad suggestion. I felt the need to explain that to you.


Remove something that prevent world pvp to shine ? Yep, it feels right to me.

It's kinda useless to speak with you btw, you dont try to argue and just tell to people that they are wrong as they don't agreee with you, funny.
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Re: Introduce a penalty on grey kill pvp

by warcraftselblatt » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:14 pm

look you are on the wrong side of this, sorry bud. Thats why all this will ever be is a forum post and nothing more.
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Re: Introduce a penalty on grey kill pvp

by Daide » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:16 pm

warcraftselblatt wrote:look you are on the wrong side of this, sorry bud. Thats why all this will ever be is a forum post and nothing more.


And again you provide no argument exept the usual "u're wrong".
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Re: Introduce a penalty on grey kill pvp

by Cortana » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:16 pm

Daide wrote:Well,

Pvping at during the leveling is something kinda weird and unbalance where the one that attack first will probably win (unless you are a warrior btw), it may not be fun for everyone but for me it is.

But, a lot of people goes mad and start bringing their 60 char to defend themselve which "kill" the pvp experience.

Like many other things, blizzard didn't really cared about it, pvp wasn't (isn't ?) their main focus in this game.

That's why i've think about a new mechanic to prevent higher level to intervene (?) and prevent anyone for leveling nor pvping.

The main thing would be to add a kind of debuff that would make the lv60 unable to attack by reducing their stats for XX minutes, this debuff could be stack and applied to their pets.

People may start to complain about how unbalance it will be as they won't be able to perform pve content due to this debuff.

But people have choice, if they choose to ruin the experience via ganking grey they may pay the price for it.


Some people may start screaming about the fact that it's not blizzlike but i and many other people, think that it would be a real improvement to the leveling experience.


Edit : One of my recent experience,

I've been killing allies in STV Ruins of Zul'Kunda, we pvped alot, great fun, even level, deaths on both sides, then one of them logged his 60 or called his friend.

You know what's coming next, corpse camping and other shit.


If you're playing on a PvP realm this is one of the things you need to deal with , so deal with it .
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Re: Introduce a penalty on grey kill pvp

by Daide » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:23 pm

Cortana wrote: If you're playing on a PvP realm this is one of the things you need to deal with , so deal with it .


Why people feels so smug to write things in blue like blizz mods ? mmm...


What i'm saying since begin, is that blizzard didnt cared that kind of issue is because they focused on higher level content, while the devs could do something to prevent it.

One of the biggest Pro would be to let people create their own world pvp content against same +/- level without 60s or less coming and breaking it.

But it seems that people dont want to understand that, what a shame.

BTW, most of the people that dont want to see it coming are the one that dont like world pvp and their "I WIN" button, as it prevent pvp content to be generated.
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Re: Introduce a penalty on grey kill pvp

by Daide » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:42 pm

http://i.imgur.com/xTeJpxa.png

Another proof about how toxic are the 60s interventions in the world pvp ON A PVP SERVER...
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Re: Introduce a penalty on grey kill pvp

by Shirley » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:07 pm

One of the biggest Pro would be to let people create their own world pvp content against same +/- level without 60s or less coming and breaking it.


Go then pve server where you can dodge everyone.


let people create their own world pvp


also this is mmo not singleplayer go retail if you want to play that singleplayer mmo

blizzard didnt cared that kind of issue


And how you know did they care or not? they "fixed" this "issue" with server for scrubs ( pve )
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Re: Introduce a penalty on grey kill pvp

by Daide » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:43 am

Shirley wrote:
One of the biggest Pro would be to let people create their own world pvp content against same +/- level without 60s or less coming and breaking it.


Go then pve server where you can dodge everyone.


Did i said that i hated world pvp ? Nop learn to read.

Shirley wrote:
let people create their own world pvp


also this is mmo not singleplayer go retail if you want to play that singleplayer mmo


Miswritten this one basicly, but the idea is that ypu don't have to rely on level 60 to be able to pvp

Shirley wrote:
blizzard didnt cared that kind of issue


And how you know did they care or not?


Pretty much everything they did since classic.

Shirley wrote: they "fixed" this "issue" with server for scrubs ( pve )


It's a fix against world pvp.

Kinda pointless to argue with you too.
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Re: Introduce a penalty on grey kill pvp

by Daide » Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:24 am

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Grey kill nerf the world pvp, fix it.

You can basicly kill players but people fear the corpse camp from lv ??, which in being the same as a pve server.
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Re: Introduce a penalty on grey kill pvp

by Ohr » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:43 am

Look, everyone hates your suggestion as it would not be blizzlike. If you spend a month or two leveling to 60, you have all the right in the world to go kill people who haven't yet. That's why we have levels - The more time you spend on the game, the stronger your character is. And why do people want to have stronger characters? So they can show off or defeat lesser players.

It's a PVP server where everyone on the enemy faction is your enemy by Lore. You're supposed to kill them, they're the enemy. Sure, some people have morals, including myself, and never touch anyone below level 60, but it is still wrong to take that opportunity away from people.

What you're suggesting is a mish-mash of pvp and pve server catered to your needs. You can't have the best of both worlds. Either you level in peace on a PvE realm, or you have fun in world pvp while getting ganked yourself as well on a PvP realm.

Make a suggestion for people to just stop killing greys instead of asking devs to enforce it. It's an issue of morals on the toxic part of the player base, not an issue of programming.

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