Sanctions against gankers

[kpbendi]

The butthurt is intense, you are welcome to join the pve server with the rest of us who don't like wpvp. The difference is that I accept the fact that the pvp server is hyperactive in wpvp.

So again.
It is not about _what_ should be penalized. It is about _how_.
The risk of being banned for few days will not change people's behaviour. Loosing all his pvp gear and money might do.

They only consider it harassment if you camp somebody in excess of five hours or something, which is more generous than what Blizzard did.

I agree, however the pvp realm is overpopulated, so the percentage of players violating the terms of use is higher than on a usual retail realm. Starting the pve server will not make things better, since pve oriented people will leave, so the percentage of violators will increase.

Your penalties are dumb and would require more work on the part of the already overloaded devs. Safespotting is already dealt with by GMs just fine, however the terms of use says 'extensive killing of quest givers'. Whenever a GM has responded to this on the forum, they have said it must go on for hours, if not days, before they intervene. Stop crying. If you don't like it here, reroll on PvE.

Well, naming a suggestion dumb is just dumb. Maybe not violating the term of use would help seeing these ideas less frightening.
Anyway, discussing different methods of penalties has nothing to do with the current amount of work of the staff, since you can reject _any_ idea with that same argument, including fixing bugs. However I do understand that these suggestions would have lower priorities, but I guess that applies to all suggestions.

[Pokeypointy]

So again.
It is not about _what_ should be penalized. It is about _how_.
The risk of being banned for few days will not change people's behaviour. Loosing all his pvp gear and money might do.

Your punishment method is out of place, out of proportion, un-blizzlike and reeks of personal grudge. It does more harm to the community than it mends it. Again, if you don't like wpvp with 3x normal pop cap, come and play with us on the pve server next saturday at 19:00 CEST.

[illutian]

PVP happens.

Deal with it.



((Also, CCP doesn't care if you PVP, so long as you aren't using an exploit...like Spider Tanking CONCORD.))

[kpbendi]

So again.
It is not about _what_ should be penalized. It is about _how_.
The risk of being banned for few days will not change people's behaviour. Loosing all his pvp gear and money might do.

Your punishment method is out of place, out of proportion, un-blizzlike and reeks of personal grudge. It does more harm to the community than it mends it. Again, if you don't like wpvp with 3x normal pop cap, come and play with us on the pve server next saturday at 19:00 CEST.

It does not matter if I like wpvp or not. There are Terms of Use and there are lot of people obviously ignoring it. Any punishment make sence only if it keeps people off repeatedly violating the rules.
So how on Earth does any harm to the community if players are forced to keep the rules?
Anyway 3x normal pop cap is not blizzlike, so controlling the situation can not be blizzlike either.

[paperboy]

this is WoW.
this is classic/vanilla.

hard to say but this is also a part of this game. it was and it will ever be.
if you got camped, log out wait few minutes and its over.

sorry bra.

[kpbendi]

this is WoW.
this is classic/vanilla.

hard to say but this is also a part of this game. it was and it will ever be.
if you got camped, log out wait few minutes and its over.

sorry bra.

Then change the Terms of Use. Until then, penalize everyone who violates it.

[Pokeypointy]

this is WoW.
this is classic/vanilla.

hard to say but this is also a part of this game. it was and it will ever be.
if you got camped, log out wait few minutes and its over.

sorry bra.

Then change the Terms of Use. Until then, penalize everyone who violates it.

Gankers aren't violating anything other than your feelings, it's not against the rules to kill a much lower level player repeatedly, unless the amount of times is excessive, same goes with quest-npc. From what I've read on the forums I can assume they mean many hours and not just a couple of times.

I get it that you have different views about what is right and what is not, but your opinion is not aligned with that of the staff, which ultimately decides where the line goes. They are being more than generous with their "many hours" instead of days after days which blizzard used.

This is why I think you should play on the PvE server, I personally don't see any value in this behavior but it is considered blizzlike gameplay and a focal point of a PvP server so it shouldn't be diminished by crippling over the top punishment.

[Ghostly]

A containment server for the likes of OP is opening in just 2 days, why would anyone bother with such a thread is beyond me.

[Robotron]

Still talking about this? Suck it up or reroll on the PVE server.

[kpbendi]

this is WoW.
this is classic/vanilla.

hard to say but this is also a part of this game. it was and it will ever be.
if you got camped, log out wait few minutes and its over.

sorry bra.

Then change the Terms of Use. Until then, penalize everyone who violates it.

Gankers aren't violating anything other than your feelings, it's not against the rules to kill a much lower level player repeatedly, unless the amount of times is excessive, same goes with quest-npc. From what I've read on the forums I can assume they mean many hours and not just a couple of times.

I get it that you have different views about what is right and what is not, but your opinion is not aligned with that of the staff, which ultimately decides where the line goes. They are being more than generous with their "many hours" instead of days after days which blizzard used.

This is why I think you should play on the PvE server, I personally don't see any value in this behavior but it is considered blizzlike gameplay and a focal point of a PvP server so it shouldn't be diminished by crippling over the top punishment.

I guess you guys miss the point.
There are restrictions in Terms of Use about what a player can or can not do in world pvp. Changing those rules is not the subject of my suggestions.
So telling to go PVE, telling to accept ganking or explaining how to interpret Terms of Use is offtopic.