Ingame command for leveling players

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Re: Ingame command for leveling players

by Ghostly » Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:48 pm

No, no, no. There's no need for such thing. It's vanilla, lowbies should fight each other to death not in BG's that they're gonna see a thousand more times when they become 60, but in jungles of Stranglethron, plains of Hillsbrad and barrens of Barrens. World PvP is one of the most fun things the game has, would be horrible to damage it like this.

Also, queueing battlegrounds from anywhere is sooo 3.1.0.
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Re: Ingame command for leveling players

by Alterego » Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:59 pm

But from capitals it is okay IMO.
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Re: Ingame command for leveling players

by Beggan » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:14 pm

I say no. The best part about leveling is the world pvp, and low level bgs aren't even that fun.
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Re: Ingame command for leveling players

by Weazool » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:23 pm

Hell, no. Blizzlike all the way. Wheeeen *I* waas a kid, we had to walk all the damned way to the battlemaster on our feet if we wanted the do WSG19. And we liked it that way! xD
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Re: Ingame command for leveling players

by ZanathKariashi » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:32 pm

There is NOTHING fun about world pvp. ESPECIALLY not when leveling. Because there is nothing fun about a 60 in BiS Pre-raid gear or actual pvp gear, smashing your lvl 30-45 face in, because they're bored.

99.999% of the time, any world PvP is going to occur in Hillsbrad, Arathi, or STV, and it is guaranteed to be a max lvl vs a leveling character (aside from the initial opening of the server, where everyone is leveling). Especially with no rep factions in Sithilus or EPL to work towards.

Hell, Blizzard openly admitted that they added Battlegrounds to try and lessen Ganking, and then later when sithilus and EPL added pvp objectives to attract people more to those zones as opposed to camping lower level zones.
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Re: Ingame command for leveling players

by Thrashing » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:41 pm

As someone who's indifferent to this being added or not, I fail to see how this would negatively affect world PvP.

Characters don't gain experience and in the end most people that aren't aiming their characters to be pure twinks will eventually want to hit max level. This means that they'll have to quest/grind/do instances anyway, which means they'll be actively running around zones and ganking or being ganked.

Furthermore you have to be realistic, it might have been great to adventure to Ashenvale as Alliance as a lowbie to queue for a battleground. And you may remember Barrens battled fondly.
But it's almost 10 years later, and in regards to these small things the truth has to be faced. No one's going to bother running to the battlemasters to queue, even if they're in the major cities people are not going to bother.
(I'm speaking out of experience after playing on many servers, them also having had more players online at peak time than Nostalrius has members signed up to their newsletter in total. Yet even on very populated servers, you rarely ever saw a low level BG pop.)
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Re: Ingame command for leveling players

by Magianeyala » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:56 pm

Thank you for being pragmatic Thrashing.

I could not agree more.
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Re: Ingame command for leveling players

by Beggan » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:01 pm

ZanathKariashi wrote:There is NOTHING fun about world pvp. ESPECIALLY not when leveling. Because there is nothing fun about a 60 in BiS Pre-raid gear or actual pvp gear, smashing your lvl 30-45 face in, because they're bored.

99.999% of the time, any world PvP is going to occur in Hillsbrad, Arathi, or STV, and it is guaranteed to be a max lvl vs a leveling character (aside from the initial opening of the server, where everyone is leveling). Especially with no rep factions in Sithilus or EPL to work towards.

Hell, Blizzard openly admitted that they added Battlegrounds to try and lessen Ganking, and then later when sithilus and EPL added pvp objectives to attract people more to those zones as opposed to camping lower level zones.


I meant you are questing in a zone, and so is another player around the same level. You both lock eyes and start to fight each other. Usually in these types of fights I get an adrenaline rush that no other game has caused. After going a few rounds you both agree to let each other quest, or the losing person just leaves. Ganking is different.
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Re: Ingame command for leveling players

by Avshar » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:11 pm

well at least you have to contact someone in a city, invite him to a party and let him queue you. And its interaction and effort on your side.
This is the big part of the game, that has been driven away by blizz in the expansions. You can just stand in a city nowadays, click lfr, lfg, pvp or anything and do not need anyone to play/communicate with.
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Re: Ingame command for leveling players

by ZanathKariashi » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:45 pm

Oh yeah, I agree that ~same level pvp is alright, as long as it's not a hard counter situation or they aren't excessive about it in those cases(you have a round or two to get your HK and then both go about your business). But it almost never happens like that.

They either spot you questing and go get their main. tell some guildies about you questing. Deliberately follow you discreetly and wait till you're engaged to attack you (repeatedly). Or are just a high level themselves who decided to go camp a lowbie area for awhile or even a group of them). Especially around Chest time (I've found it's actually faster to just grind the entire STV block away in a unpopulated area then it is even attempt to quest there, adding to frustration of the huge area and lack of mounts and FPs you're already having to deal with).

Once you get to the Sithilus and EPL areas, you end up dealing with more group content, so pvp encounters tend to be a little more balanced, since you've usually got potential allies on hand, where as leveling zones, the populations tend to be staggered to the point you may not have someone to call on for help in event of a leveling party that decides to camp you, or what not.

I'm not as bad about getting frustrated as i used to be, though it's mostly because I stopped trying to rush. If I get into a situation where I'm being repeatedly ganked or otherwise inconvenienced, I just called it a night and try back later. Though I still refuse to even bother questing in STV. I hate that zone even on a normal server and would much rather just grind somewhere with profitable mobs, especially since that's when you're getting close to the big 4 0, and your mount purchase, where as questing in STV isn't really that profitable and the sheer amount of time spent travelling hurts your overall xp per hour even when you aren't having your questing path constantly interrupted by rival questers and gankers).
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