PvE server not good solution ? Read this !

[Eulderink]

I do agree with your standpoint, but i disagree when i look at the world of warcraft.
World pvp is just needed in my opinion. There is a war going on so you should kill the opposite faction.
I don't see myself raiding in the near future cause of a lack of time, so i try to enjoy the lvl'ing the most i can, while doing dungeons and such.

[Kleigon]

I do agree with your standpoint, but i disagree when i look at the world of warcraft.
World pvp is just needed in my opinion. There is a war going on so you should kill the opposite faction.
I don't see myself raiding in the near future cause of a lack of time, so i try to enjoy the lvl'ing the most i can, while doing dungeons and such.

Well obviously there will still be open world PvP. A change like this would just prevent situations where someone who doesn't want to PvP being forced to PvP.

And yes, I know it's a PvP server and "If you don't want to PvP, then go somewhere else". Do you REALLY want those people to go somewhere else? No, you want them stay. You want them to stay for the sake of the server. A bustling population makes for a fun gaming environment. So let's please stop with the "Go somewhere else if you just want PvE", because if everyone who just wanted PvE left, this server's population would take a pretty big hit. The PvE-minded players are staying in spite of the PvP, not because of it.

[Raiderone]

in retail vanilla i played on a PVP server, not much unlike this server, tho not as many players online at the same time.
i never saw an oposite faction player go into the INN for my faction and kill the innkeeper (unless there was some World PVP raid going on)
on this server it seems causing grief to players upto 40levels below you is fine.
i am for the suggestion of a mixed server PVP/PVE that way i can actually level up to 60 without being ganked by players that gets 0 honor for killing me.
after vanilla i moved freely to a PVE realm, and i have had my hopes for a Vanilla PVE server to come along for a long time..

i dont see the point of ganking someone 10 - 40 levels below me just to cause grief and to slow that person down, but the kids(in lack of a better word) on the horde side always gank nomatter what level the oposition is.

[konked]

I totally agree with the suggestion. Atleast now since the server is still fresh.

From what it seems so far , the A:H ration is 1:2 and considering the amount of players during peak hours, one can easily realise that vanilla was never meant for THIS amount of players. Although we embrace the accessability of dugeons that comes with this many players, the questing experience , atleast as an alliance player (being my first in all honesty) resumes to doing a quest and dieing 10 times in the process from being ganked.

Everybody enjoys PvP to some extent but there's a time and place for everything and i'm afraid many players , including myself , will slowly lose interest in this great server due to the extremely slow progress in leveling, which lets face it , its not the greatest part of World of Warcraft.

Surreall

Ratio is like 55:45 don't know where you're getting 2:1 at

[Bajuware]

Why do this instead accepting PvP server like 75% of Vanilla retail servers were ?

False premise. PvP like RP are niche gamer types. PvE is the vast majority of player base for every MMO including Eve Online. PvPers are in the minority in the gaming world. If it doesn't seem so from your experience, then consider this. Water seeks its own level. That means you will find that you most often are surrounded by those who enjoy what you enjoy. It is a natural consequence of your play style / preference.

On another note when it comes to this topic. I find it very funny to see kids who were less than 10 years out of diapers when the game came out telling others to "man-up" or "deal with it."

What we have here is a League of Legends / Dota generation. That is their version of gaming world. They cannot relate to other perspectives, as presented by their replies on these forums. Therefore there is no need to tailor your arguments to satisfy their limited logic.

What the hell? PVPers are a minority? If i look at this server with raids everyday by hundreds of players this does not look like a PvP minority. Most people enjoy PvP and the PvE people come here to destroy the fun for a majority. Server is PvP and will stay PvP. At least i hope it will be this way.

I am only Level 12 alliance druid and was confronted with 2 level 6 hordes in my starting zone. I grouped up with a few players from lvl 1-4 and we killed them and this was a lot of fun.

When i think of vanilla wow i think of huge battles at tarrens mill and southshore first not about lvling without any ganks. Also pvp helps to find more friends as you need them not only for questing but for defending yourself also.

Also another question for you. You said "PvPers are a minority". WHY ARE ALMOST ALL VANILLA SERVERS PVP THEN?!
Stop fabricating lies.

[bloodfirst]

@Bajuware :

They're maybe not a minority but they're not majority either. Lot of players here ( looking at the number of topics asking for pve option ) don't really care about PvP but you have to understand that World PvP in Nos is not Blizzlike. Why ? Because as I said thousand times, in 2005-2006 each server at peak were at 2-3k players ( some server much less ), not 6-6,5k. So it was less painful than here, and at the time Blizzard offered a PvE server option for those who didn't like world PvP ( and btw you can still world pvp in pve server ) which is not the case here because no one could guess Nos would have 6k+ players, I personnaly thought for a long time it will be 2-3k max so PvP was not a big deal at this time.

Now we got a huge community and bring an other server with no-pvp option is doable, not the best choice but doable.

Every PvPers like to say PvE players are selfish and try to break the community just because we asking to play on this server ! We want to play, we like the game and the server, we just don't like to be stuck in ghost for hours and not to be able to reach our goal ( lvl 60 - raids - etc... ). For some players the vanilla exp phase is also a pain in the ass : no fun, quest are shits, you have to bash a lot and it's fucking boring and long, if you add gank on top of that, it became really messed up and lot of people actually quit cuz of that.

I already said it but not everyone got 6+ hours/day to play on Nos, and wasting the small time you have being gank everytime is not what I call "having fun". And Btw I played for years on a PvP server ( and im still on it ) on retail but I get ganked ( I mean real gank not just being killed 1 times ) maybe 20-25 times during my pex to 60, during my 33 to 34 I get ganked more than 50 times ( im not joking ! ) ! I can't even tell you how much in my all pexxing time and im only 34... World pvp can be cool okay, but that is too much ! And im only on lvl 30+ area, when everyone will reach 60, 60's maps would be a nightmare for PvE players...

Get friends to help you ? Okay I'll bring my 3-4 friends lvl 20-30+ to fight lvl 50+-60 players, I mean... seriously ? Im Ok with cooperation but I can't always play with 5-6 players to protect me from ennemy faction. And the quests and grind are not designed to be done in group on WoW ( that's sad I know... ).

So no we're not being selfish, we're just asking the right to play !

[ahunter8056]

I would be happy with any solution that resulted in not being flagged for PvP. Personally I hate PvP. I don't want to PvP. If I wanted to PvP, I'd go do battlegrounds. For me, the only thing there is in WoW is questing. I play Nostalrius because I miss all of the zones that Blizzard ruined in Cataclysm. I just want to do my quests, and I don't appreciate having my time wasted by being constantly ganked. For now I'm going to stop playing because I'm sick of it, and I look forward to a PvE solution being put in place. Despite how much I loved questing in Vanilla WoW, I just can't go on being ganked every time I resurrect. This isn't me trying to seek attention, I am just stating what I am doing.

It also sickens me that every time I publicly complain on General Chat, I am met by tons of immature responses in reply to what I feel is a perfectly valid concern. Whenever I complain, a frequent reply is to be told to go to a different private server. I admit, I haven't tried many private servers, but to my knowledge, isn't Nostalrius the biggest? It seems to me that there are a lot of tiny private servers that few people play, but Nostalrius is retail Vanilla-big. It's like the real thing. Being on a tiny server composed of a hundred players or so just wouldn't do it for me.

In my view we shouldn't be forced to be automatically flagged for PvP all the time. It should be a choice. Whether that means the Nostalrius team create a PvE server or introduce the OP's suggestion, that's fine by me.

[OGTUCKER117]

this is a fucking retarded idea

[Kleigon]

Also another question for you. You said "PvPers are a minority". WHY ARE ALMOST ALL VANILLA SERVERS PVP THEN?!
Stop fabricating lies.

That is a good question. We can only venture guesses, and those guesses will of course be made in a way that suites that person's argument or agenda. For example, you could say it's because "Vanilla was all about the PvP, everyone who wants a vanilla server wants PvP." When in truth, the only thing that can be said about these private servers is that the Devs CHOSE to make it PvP. Was there a poll beforehand that they used a source for inspiration for their choice? I doubt it.

Maybe the devs just like PvP? Anyone who tries to pass off anything on this forum as a fact is more than likely "fabricating lies". Myself included.

[Garfunkel]

This "it's a minority" and "no, it's a majority" issue is entirely made up and has no basis in reality. Considering server population fluctuates between 2k and 6k, depending on the time of the day, we can estimate actual number of players to be at least 8k - but since there are players who don't play every day or all day, the actual player number is more likely around 10k or so.

Meanwhile, forum population peak was:

Most users ever online was 2321 on 28 Feb 2015 17:13

The number of active posters is significantly smaller than that. What does this mean? That everyone who claims that they know what the "players" think about any topic based on what they can see on the forum is either ignorant of reality or a liar.

The only way to really test this is to create a PvE server separate from the PvP server and see how their populations fare. PvE will probably outnumber PvP because it'll be easier and majority of people are happy (for a while at least) with easy or even instant gratification. But again, that's just conjecture. We don't know and unless Nost creates an in-game survey that you have to answer before you can play, we will never know. Because the forum posters might not represent a statistically significant portion of server population at all.