Remove Ability to Join other BGs while in a BG

[nervous]

and leaving at the beginning is usually the way to go since it brings the most profit. people will always go the way with least ressitance.

not many people bring the stammina of loosing their way to rank10 or higher.

multiqueuing was alredy removed and from monday till friday you have to experinece the joys of constant 0:3 horde wins as alliance player. many people led this to eventually quit pvp forever, leaving only PvE heroes like predictable in pvp who doges every BG which he can't win withing 5 mins, or totally undergeared scrubs or afk bots.

If this is the way you like pvp. i have really to question your mental situation.

Let me tackle this one by one.

My comment was made because you claimed Nost pvp would degenerate into ED pvp. You know nothing of ED pvp, and your warsong experience is irrelevant completely when comparing the two.

Yeah, people will go the path of least resistance, because they are not playing for fun or competition, they're grinding for loot. People claim Vanilla was the best because of how hard everyhing was!! back then. You know what's hard? Fighting tooth and nail against enemies on your journey to rank 14, rank 10, or whatever. You know what's not hard? Ghost games.

"not many can lose their way to rank 10"

You think you're entitled to rank 10? No one is. This isn't your little sister's soccer game where everyone get's a participation ribbon and smiley sticker and there's no winners OR losers. If you want rank 10, you better be willing to put in the effort for it. It was a big deal to have high rankings on retail, and it should be here.

"0:3 horde wins as an alliance player"

Wow! Alliance gets stomped? Did you know that I got stomped a lot last week too? You know what I did? I started grouping with my guildies and then we stomped them back. Don't have guildies? Ask in world. People are always willing to run premades.

You wanna know why people quit PvP? It's because it gets boring running flags in empty games, 5 capping empty AB games, and comparing RP outfits in the middle of the field while your FC captures 3 flags while watching anime on his other monitor.

I like pvp active and I hate dodging and dodgemades. They're what killed me and a lot of others drive to pvp on ED. This system currently in place allows precise dodging, and even encourages it. Why even bother saying "SPIES WILL BE PUNISHED" if they're not necessary in the first place?

Fuzz off my thread, you ditz.

[Jackyy]

and leaving at the beginning is usually the way to go since it brings the most profit. people will always go the way with least ressitance.

not many people bring the stammina of loosing their way to rank10 or higher.

multiqueuing was alredy removed and from monday till friday you have to experinece the joys of constant 0:3 horde wins as alliance player. many people led this to eventually quit pvp forever, leaving only PvE heroes like predictable in pvp who doges every BG which he can't win withing 5 mins, or totally undergeared scrubs or afk bots.

If this is the way you like pvp. i have really to question your mental situation.

Let me tackle this one by one.

My comment was made because you claimed Nost pvp would degenerate into ED pvp. You know nothing of ED pvp, and your warsong experience is irrelevant completely when comparing the two.

Yeah, people will go the path of least resistance, because they are not playing for fun or competition, they're grinding for loot. People claim Vanilla was the best because of how hard everyhing was!! back then. You know what's hard? Fighting tooth and nail against enemies on your journey to rank 14, rank 10, or whatever. You know what's not hard? Ghost games.

"not many can lose their way to rank 10"

You think you're entitled to rank 10? No one is. This isn't your little sister's soccer game where everyone get's a participation ribbon and smiley sticker and there's no winners OR losers. If you want rank 10, you better be willing to put in the effort for it. It was a big deal to have high rankings on retail, and it should be here.

"0:3 horde wins as an alliance player"

Wow! Alliance gets stomped? Did you know that I got stomped a lot last week too? You know what I did? I started grouping with my guildies and then we stomped them back. Don't have guildies? Ask in world. People are always willing to run premades.

You wanna know why people quit PvP? It's because it gets boring running flags in empty games, 5 capping empty AB games, and comparing RP outfits in the middle of the field while your FC captures 3 flags while watching anime on his other monitor.

I like pvp active and I hate dodging and dodgemades. They're what killed me and a lot of others drive to pvp on ED. This system currently in place allows precise dodging, and even encourages it. Why even bother saying "SPIES WILL BE PUNISHED" if they're not necessary in the first place?

Fuzz off my thread, you ditz.

you, sir, are mistaken.

it's not about a competion. it's about the grind. and everything must serve the grind.

i will not remain silent, if a wannabe PvE-elitist want a very effctive way of the grind removed, because he can not show his awesomeness in a "competion".

firstoff: if u want competetion, play LoL DOTA or TBC (or later) arena. there you got your puny raiting you can jerk off to.

second: you don't want a real competetion. you are simply mad because you can not somp undergered people in PvP and make some "PvP" movie or stream about it.

asi i said here it's about the grind and it must serve the grind.


btw disabling mutliqueue is not blizzlike and would violate the server staffs set of mind.

[nervous]

you, sir, are mistaken.

it's not about a competion. it's about the grind. and everything must serve the grind.

i will not remain silent, if a wannabe PvE-elitist want a very effctive way of the grind removed, because he can not show his awesomeness in a "competion".

firstoff: if u want competetion, play LoL DOTA or TBC (or later) arena. there you got your puny raiting you can jerk off to.

second: you don't want a real competetion. you are simply mad because you can not somp undergered people in PvP and make some "PvP" movie or stream about it.

asi i said here it's about the grind and it must serve the grind.


btw disabling mutliqueue is not blizzlike and would violate the server staffs set of mind.

Let me tackle these one by one.

"very effective way of the grind removed"
You realize I'm asking to fight other premades with my own premade right? That's legitimately the least effective way to grind honor short of murdering bread vendors. There is no competition in slaughtering the three of four puggers that fill up the dodgemade's spots after they bail for AB. There would've been if they were locked into the battleground.

Ignoring your drooling rants accusing me of...something...muh ratings?

I do want a real competition. That's why I play this game, why I play with my guild, and why I came to this server.

It's not a grind if there's no work involved. That's just "waiting". Grinding implies you're doing something outside of waiting for that 5 minute timer to tick down. Movies are for those with editing talents, and I don't "get" streams.

You know what else isn't blizzlike? Just about everything on this server. We're using 1.12 talents with 1.9 spells with 1.4 items with 1.2 boss scripts. Not that there's anything wrong with that mix, but it's not
"blizzlike".

Stop responding, you were a laughing stock of a paladin on warsong and I'm certain you would've been an even bigger one on ED had you not came in during its swan song. Feel free to comment on nostalrius PvP when you hit 60, because then I'll probably have gotten tired of your drooling screeches of "BLIZZLIKE" and thrown you on the ignore list.

[Jackyy]

you, sir, are mistaken.

it's not about a competion. it's about the grind. and everything must serve the grind.

i will not remain silent, if a wannabe PvE-elitist want a very effctive way of the grind removed, because he can not show his awesomeness in a "competion".

firstoff: if u want competetion, play LoL DOTA or TBC (or later) arena. there you got your puny raiting you can jerk off to.

second: you don't want a real competetion. you are simply mad because you can not somp undergered people in PvP and make some "PvP" movie or stream about it.

asi i said here it's about the grind and it must serve the grind.


btw disabling mutliqueue is not blizzlike and would violate the server staffs set of mind.

Let me tackle these one by one.

"very effective way of the grind removed"
You realize I'm asking to fight other premades with my own premade right? That's legitimately the least effective way to grind honor short of murdering bread vendors. There is no competition in slaughtering the three of four puggers that fill up the dodgemade's spots after they bail for AB. There would've been if they were locked into the battleground.

Ignoring your drooling rants accusing me of...something...muh ratings?

I do want a real competition. That's why I play this game, why I play with my guild, and why I came to this server.

It's not a grind if there's no work involved. That's just "waiting". Grinding implies you're doing something outside of waiting for that 5 minute timer to tick down. Movies are for those with editing talents, and I don't "get" streams.

You know what else isn't blizzlike? Just about everything on this server. We're using 1.12 talents with 1.9 spells with 1.4 items with 1.2 boss scripts. Not that there's anything wrong with that mix, but it's not
"blizzlike".

Stop responding, you were a laughing stock of a paladin on warsong and I'm certain you would've been an even bigger one on ED had you not came in during its swan song. Feel free to comment on nostalrius PvP when you hit 60, because then I'll probably have gotten tired of your drooling screeches of "BLIZZLIKE" and thrown you on the ignore list.

you simply will not understand.

the alliance premades will still doge your premades, since they will dogde everythign that seemingly lasts longer then 5 minutes with alt+f4 or the "scouting" tactic we all know from retail vanilla.
they do not care of your wish of competition, they simply want their pvp gear to perform better in PvE.

the only thing this would change is throwing more rocks into the way of non-premade players.

[nervous]

you simply will not understand.

the alliance premades will still doge your premades, since they will dogde everythign that seemingly lasts longer then 5 minutes with alt+f4 or the "scouting" tactic we all know from retail vanilla.
they do not care of your wish of competition, they simply want their pvp gear to perform better in PvE.

the only thing this would change is throwing more rocks into the way of non-premade players.

No, you don't understand. It's not just premades dodging premades, but pugs dodging pugs. Pugs are getting ghost games at 60 and free wins on both sides. I saw 3 AB and 1 WSG game up simultaneously last week at level 60, and there were only 16 horde players between them.

[Jackyy]

This should show you that most people preffers ghost games then feenix like pugs.

Why you want to force them to do what is real pvp in YOUR opinion.
The players chose their style in a non-bug abusing or cheatfull way.

[nervous]

This should show you that most people preffers ghost games then feenix like pugs.

Why you want to force them to do what is real pvp in YOUR opinion.
The players chose their style in a non-bug abusing or cheatfull way.

Yeah I'm sorry but PvP stands for player vs player and there is no second player in many games in this current system--and that's not opinion, that's actually what it stands for. Anndd blocked.

[Jackyy]

The Situation will become better when most players are 60. And once the people REALLY intrested in pvp get their gear they will stay because they simply don't need the gear anymore. But atm most people don't have their rank 8+ gear and rep rewards have yet to come.

Once people think they have a chance they will stay.

[lupeh]

I really don't care about rep. It gives zilch right now. I care about having someone to actually fight in my AB/WSG..

sorry but this level of selfishness is just shocking.

you'd rather remove the ability of a majority of the players to get decent items from PvP (theese items gonna get added with Dire Maul very soon), for your own amusement.

What did u expect from a grizzly member

[Cousy]

I realize this post turned out to be a Jackyy vs. Nervous thread but I'm with Nervous. It's incredibly frustrating to want to pvp and solo queue up only to be put into WSG's that are 5-7v10 and AB's that are 8v9. The multi-queue system is what is to blame here. The PvP population is enough that games will continue to roll and during AB weekend, games will still pop like crazy.

I want to play full 10v10 or 15v15 BGs and multiqueue gets in the way of that.