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Re: PVE Realm

by Shiggs13 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:48 pm

For all I know, expecting a PvE server right now is far fetched. You might not be on the side that favors a PvP server but that's just how it is.

The reality is that most private servers are PvP and we just have to deal with it. On retail I played on PvE realm. In fact, the whole PvP aspect was new to me until I joined private servers. It was harsh adjusting to it, but I did it. If most of the private servers were PvE, I'd love that, but they aren't and I keep playing because I love the game for what it is, pvp or pve. Those that can't adjust just stop playing. Simple as that. It's a harsh reality unfortunately.
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Re: PVE Realm

by Tali » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:51 pm

For the record, the ability to flag yourself for PVP is pretty much exactly what a PVE server is.

PVP ruleset: In contested zones and enemy cities, you are flagged for PVP at all times and are able to kill and be killed freely with no exceptions.

PVE ruleset: Unless you are in an enemy city, contested zones do not automatically flag you for PVP. You may choose to flag yourself for PVP or be flagged by buffing/healing someone who is also flagged for PVP.

Edit for Shiggs- To be honest, I'm just tired of every server being PVP only, and always being told to deal with it. It's harsh and it's reality, but it doesn't necessarily have to be that way. I don't want to keep accepting that things have to be the way they are. Even if I end up failing, I still want to try.
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Re: PVE Realm

by Shiggs13 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:59 pm

Tali wrote:Edit for Shiggs- To be honest, I'm just tired of every server being PVP only, and always being told to deal with it. It's harsh and it's reality, but it doesn't necessarily have to be that way. I don't want to keep accepting that things have to be the way they are. Even if I end up failing, I still want to try.


I commend you for trying, but having been on this forums since the start and observering the discussions on it, it seems like you're speaking to deaf ears. There have been polls, lengthy discussions on this topic and nothing's come of it. This is one aspect the devs don't want to change from what I've noticed.
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Re: PVE Realm

by Tali » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:10 pm

Shiggs13 wrote:I commend you for trying, but having been on this forums since the start and observering the discussions on it, it seems like you're speaking to deaf ears. There have been polls, lengthy discussions on this topic and nothing's come of it. This is one aspect the devs don't want to change from what I've noticed.


Eh, if nothing comes of it, fair enough, but there's a first time for everything.
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Re: PVE Realm

by Alarien » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:26 pm

What i would really hate to see is that the admins of this server allow this project down the drains because no one was willing to do anything about it. Keep in mind that new private servers are opening pretty much every day, this has become pretty good way to earn money. Hands down for amazing advertising campaign that has been done (I am for quite some time in this business and know how things work) but doing a huge campaign and getting people to play here is just a first step, keeping them is another story. Work with the community, make the rules that everyone will have to respect and (try) to keep your players happy and I am sure that this might end the flood of "PvE server pls" threads.
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Re: PVE Realm

by Sijuan » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:34 pm

Tali wrote:
Shiggs13 wrote:I commend you for trying, but having been on this forums since the start and observering the discussions on it, it seems like you're speaking to deaf ears. There have been polls, lengthy discussions on this topic and nothing's come of it. This is one aspect the devs don't want to change from what I've noticed.


Eh, if nothing comes of it, fair enough, but there's a first time for everything.


You know what made Rebirth great server? Not script, not community, but devs and admins who were open for suggestions from their players. What is exactly the point of making forum section named suggestions if you do not want to "listen" anything that was written there?
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Re: PVE Realm

by Tali » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:39 pm

Sijuan wrote:You know what made Rebirth great server?


Not disagreeing with you, but that might not be a can of worms you wish to open here.

Edited to add:

Another thought I had was this- opening a PVE server would actually allow for overall server growth on both PVP and PVE realms. The server now is very full and that frustrates some people. Opening a separate PVE server would allow for more room on the main PVP server and thus an overall larger playerbase.
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Re: PVE Realm

by Shiggs13 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:47 pm

Sijuan wrote:You know what made Rebirth great server? Not script, not community, but devs and admins who were open for suggestions from their players. What is exactly the point of making forum section named suggestions if you do not want to "listen" anything that was written there?


Sure they're listening, but they're not going to do every single thing we ask them to do.

To quote again by a GM: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2815&start=20

He states that they are not catering to everyone. Read their pros and cons, and you'll have your answer.

Also, another post by a Dev:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2815&start=70

Edit for Tali: If the server was still increasing in population, then maybe opening a server might be a great choice. Rember when we had 7k+ players on? Doesn't seem like an issue anymore when we have 5.2k atm. I think with time, the playerbase will slowly decline. I'd rather have PvP on one realm with a population in the 5k range 2 months in rather than two server with 2.5k population at this time.

Imagine in a year.. what will the population look then? each realm will have 1k tops when one realm would probably gradually reduce down to 2.5k. Rather have one average population realm down the road rather than 2 low pop realms.
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Re: PVE Realm

by Sijuan » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:52 pm

Tali wrote:Another thought I had was this- opening a PVE server would actually allow for overall server growth on both PVP and PVE realms. The server now is very full and that frustrates some people. Opening a separate PVE server would allow for more room on the main PVP server and thus an overall larger playerbase.


If freakish respawn time for quest items/mobs was what you had in mind, I believe that it could be fixed just by tweaking it to match average number of players leveling in any given zone.

I'm just worried about impact on economy that splitting of server population would do.

But basically we agree that something should be done to give people who do not want to participate in open world pvp a option.
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Re: PVE Realm

by PanTheSatyr » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:46 pm

There are too many jerks ruining people's experiences by griefing. Give them their own private gank server or something.
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