What should and shouldn't be monetized

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Re: What should and shouldn't be monetized

by ThatsthePuzzle » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:07 pm

Put a target on the home page or forum or something saying €150 out of €200 reached (or whatever the costs are) for this month maybe.
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Re: What should and shouldn't be monetized

by Vaulken » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:08 pm

Some are misconstruing the idea that this is to keep the servers alive, they're missing the bigger picture that more funds could bring better things all round.
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Re: What should and shouldn't be monetized

by Oniss » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:11 pm

The second Nos starts selling gear or items in the cash shop the 5 years they just worked for is destroyed. Also if they did that Blizzard can and may jump on their asses.
Anyone ever heard of WoWscape? one of the biggest Private servers ever. They had a cash shop and blizzard sued them for 89 Million lol. Blizz won by default.
Now having donations is definitely what will probably happen but for what you get for donating that's dancing with the fire.
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Re: What should and shouldn't be monetized

by Hatson » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:32 pm

They very strictly said "NO SHOP" in the trailer, and they have said that many times here on the forums and FAQ.
There will be no shop, for anything. Ever.

If you want to support the devs, then ask them to make a Donation button. I'd love to donate myself, but there isn't any option for that yet.
But don't ever expect any shop to show up, after they have said many times, there is NO SHOP. It would only piss off the community that expected there would never be a shop like they said.
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Re: What should and shouldn't be monetized

by Woodhauler » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:00 pm

In theory a donation button, with no rewards, seems like a good idea to support a grassroots private server.

Molten loves to debunk shutdown scares with their "its a donation - rewarded with coins - and we aren't charging customers technically, therefore blizzard cant shut us down" argument. This is false.

http://www.themarysue.com/blizzard-priv ... r-lawsuit/

Scapegaming offered a donation button, and just like molten, and gave rewards to players who did. It didn't matter if they had offered rewards or not in the end. If you read the article, it clearly outlines that they were DONATIONS (not charges), and simply because money was going into their coffers, instead of blizzards, they were liable. Donations are donations and its irrelevant if the company offered a reward or not.

Jurisdiction is also not an argument because blizzard has official offices in usa, europe, asia, all fucking over the place where they can have their multi-million dollar retainer-lawyer-team come storming in for a WHAMMY! Some private server projects have not been prosecuted YET. That is also NOT an argument to use in defense of donations because there is clearly a legal precedent.

No donation button please. Find another way to help the project, and play this the smart/safe way.
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Re: What should and shouldn't be monetized

by Switchblade » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:53 pm

Vaulken wrote:The Nostalrius team will probably want to monetize this somehow and we need ideas that give people meaning full things that don't heavily impact how the game functions. I propose things they can monetize for $$$ as a means of donation reward should be based around novelty and comsmetics that does not affect buying power or player power. The logic here is "would blizz put this in their own cashshop?":


- Rare/Novelty Mounts
- Rare/Novelty Pets
- +10% Exp potion for 1 hour
- Temporary appearance changing potions (Deviate Delights?)
- Temporary size changing potions (Voodoo Witchdoctor?)
- Faction change
- Appearance change
- Bank space
- Talent respec


Things that should NOT be sold:

- Flasks/Scrolls (They were a big part of farming and should remain as so)
- Nothing that can be vendored for gold


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To encourage people to vote, people can gain tokens after voting for Nostalrius and then spend those tokens to purchase said items if they have enough. Of course you could also spend $$$ to buy tokens as a normalized means to price the rewards. I will leave the pricing to the Nostalrius team but would suggest they follow Blizzards methodology of cheap enough to cause contemplation but not too cheap to not make that a decision i.e. mounts would cost $25, pets $15 etc etc

I'll add suggestions I feel adhere to the rules, if anything here bothers you please voice your opinions but try to be civilized of course.



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Re: What should and shouldn't be monetized

by dirtiedfetus » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:34 pm

Very simple solution to this. If you are worried about the server not having enough money to keep it running, donate money. Don't expect anything in return. EVERY single one of us should be willing to spend $15/month on this server JUST to play. Expecting something in return for a server you are allowed to play on for free is disgusting.

I am actually okay with pure vanity items. Costumes, Deviate Delights, Holiday items like snowballs, etc. No mounts, no pets, no items, no talent respecs. Anything that prevents you from spending gold or time in-game is not okay.

If you want a server like that, guess what? There are tons of them. Stop trying to ruin the only legit classic server available before it's even released.
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Re: What should and shouldn't be monetized

by Switchblade » Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:21 pm

dirtiedfetus wrote:Very simple solution to this. If you are worried about the server not having enough money to keep it running, donate money. Don't expect anything in return. EVERY single one of us should be willing to spend $15/month on this server JUST to play. Expecting something in return for a server you are allowed to play on for free is disgusting.

I am actually okay with pure vanity items. Costumes, Deviate Delights, Holiday items like snowballs, etc. No mounts, no pets, no items, no talent respecs. Anything that prevents you from spending gold or time in-game is not okay.

If you want a server like that, guess what? There are tons of them. Stop trying to ruin the only legit classic server available before it's even released.


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Re: What should and shouldn't be monetized

by kegboy123 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:29 pm

dirtiedfetus wrote:Very simple solution to this. If you are worried about the server not having enough money to keep it running, donate money. Don't expect anything in return. EVERY single one of us should be willing to spend $15/month on this server JUST to play. Expecting something in return for a server you are allowed to play on for free is disgusting.

I am actually okay with pure vanity items. Costumes, Deviate Delights, Holiday items like snowballs, etc. No mounts, no pets, no items, no talent respecs. Anything that prevents you from spending gold or time in-game is not okay.

If you want a server like that, guess what? There are tons of them. Stop trying to ruin the only legit classic server available before it's even released.


thanks for the laugh
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Re: What should and shouldn't be monetized

by Strife » Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:49 pm

xp potions :lol: no p2w thanks.
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