Balancing the classes a bit?

[smilkovpetko]

If you are actually serious, I think you should prove all us haters wrong by joining an MC pug (cause I'm assuming you are not a guild-raider with that spec) and record it on realmplayers. I would love to see your dps on Sulfuron

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 16&Fight=6

"on place where 70% of my dps abilities are bugged and nerfed to the ground" + many blue items with poor weapon compare to the group which i was in.

Sulfuron harbringer - against full t3 players that use very bis weapons..

i hope you are happy now. cheers by killerduki

p.s i apologize to nostalrius for posting such link.

[Datruth]

If you are actually serious, I think you should prove all us haters wrong by joining an MC pug (cause I'm assuming you are not a guild-raider with that spec) and record it on realmplayers. I would love to see your dps on Sulfuron

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 16&Fight=6

"on place where 70% of my dps abilities are bugged and nerfed" + many blue items with poor weapon compare to the group which i was in.

Sulfuron harbringer - against full t3 players that use very bis weapons..

i hope you are happy now. cheers by killerduki

I don't see how that proves your point.
I don't know shit about the warsong server, but the fact that you guys were slower than the good guilds on this server even though you guys are "full t3 players that use very bis weapons" and the fact that your dps on sulfuron than the best mages/rogues/warriors/warlocks and probably even hunters from THIS server either proves Warsong is a shitty server or you guys are exceptionally bad.

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/222/zkw7.jpg
- BWL gauntlet and Broodlord fight says hello

Since when has Bloodlord been an AoE fight?

[Theloras]

If you are actually serious, I think you should prove all us haters wrong by joining an MC pug (cause I'm assuming you are not a guild-raider with that spec) and record it on realmplayers. I would love to see your dps on Sulfuron

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 16&Fight=6

"on place where 70% of my dps abilities are bugged and nerfed" + many blue items with poor weapon compare to the group which i was in.

Sulfuron harbringer - against full t3 players that use very bis weapons..

i hope you are happy now. cheers by killerduki

I don't see how that proves your point.
I don't know shit about the warsong server, but the fact that you guys were slower than the good guilds on this server even though you guys are "full t3 players that use very bis weapons" and the fact that your dps is lower than on sulfuron than the best mages/rogues/warriors/warlocks and probably even hunters from THIS server either proves Warsong is a shitty server or you guys are exceptionally bad.

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/222/zkw7.jpg
- BWL gauntlet and Broodlord fight says hello

Since when has Bloodlord been an AoE fight?

What part of GAUNTLET do you not understand?!?!?

Are you functionally retarded?

That SS shows the gauntlet AND Broodlord fight - if I just showed the gauntlet, I would have been over 4k DPS

[Datruth]

What part of GAUNTLET do you not understand?!?!?

Are you functionally retarded?

That SS shows the gauntlet AND Broodlord fight - if I just showed the gauntlet, I would have been over 4k DPS

By gauntlet I'm assuming you mean the supression room, and It makes sense to me to keep the mobs on a paladin since you are a plate class with aoe abilities, but the boss fight in itself doesn't include any adds you can aoe down, unless if you're actually dumb enough to tank the boss at the traps but I'm assuming that's never the case.
Anyways, since you seem so convinced that paladins are the best aoe dps class, please show me a paladin topping meters on lucifron, gehennas or sulfuron with the adds stacked on this server, since that is the only boss encounters you actually can use aoe on in this patch. And Onyxia ofc, but dmg meters on onyxia fluctuate too much depending on how much AoEing there is to do.

[Theloras]

What part of GAUNTLET do you not understand?!?!?

Are you functionally retarded?

That SS shows the gauntlet AND Broodlord fight - if I just showed the gauntlet, I would have been over 4k DPS

By gauntlet I'm assuming you mean the supression room, and It makes sense to me to keep the mobs on a paladin since you are a plate class with aoe abilities, but the boss fight in itself doesn't include any adds you can aoe down, unless if you're actually dumb enough to tank the boss at the traps but I'm assuming that's never the case.
Anyways, since you seem so convinced that paladins are the best aoe dps class, please show me a paladin topping meters on lucifron, gehennas or sulfuron with the adds stacked on this server, since that is the only boss encounters you actually can use aoe on in this patch. And Onyxia ofc, but dmg meters on onyxia fluctuate too much depending on how much AoEing there is to do.

You seem to not understand the concept of what an AoE fight is cause Lucifron, Gehenas and Sulfuron are not considered AoE fights lol - at best you can get some ticks on 2 or 3 mobs at a time during those encounters but hardly worth counting on it...

Allow me to illuminate you:

ZG AoE fights:
- Bat boss add spawn
- spider boss add spawn
- Tiger boss add spawn
- Panther boss add spawn
- Jingo add spawn

AQ20 AoE fights:
- Rajaxx lieutenant waves

MC AoE fights:
- Imp packs
- Garr adds

Onyxia
- Whelp adds during phase 2 and 3

BWL AoE fights:
- Razorgore add spawn
- Gauntlet/Suppression Room
- Goblin Technician packs
- Nefarian phase 1 and 3

AQ40 AoE fights:
- Bug Gauntlet
- Ouro

Naxx AoE fights:
- Spider Packs
- Anubrekhan scarab spawns
- Maexna spider add spawns
- Gluth zombie chow

PS - not only are we the only Plate class that has AoE abilities, but when we add this to the mix, then no one can touch us when AoE tanking:

[Bioness]

No one gives a shit about AoE DPS.

[Theloras]

No one gives a shit about AoE DPS.

orly?

then why are Paladins much better tanks for all 5/10 man instances?

[Datruth]

You seem to not understand the concept of what an AoE fight is cause Lucifron, Gehenas and Sulfuron are not considered AoE fights lol - at best you can get some ticks on 2 or 3 mobs at a time during those encounters but hardly worth counting on it...

You said ANY aoe fight on multiple occasions so naturally I count any boss encounter where AoE abilities is viable. You could definitely argue Lucifron and Gehennas isn't really worth counting, but on Sulfuron with 4-5 potential targets if you stack, AoE always produce the most dps on that encounter.

I haven't done any of the fights you on your list of "real aoe fights" in 10 years, but looking at the ED Boss records in Zul'gurub (AoE boss paradise) mages dominates every record with 1k to above 2k on all of the bosses in there expect for Hazza'rah, while none of the paladin records even come near, absolutely highest one being 600ish dps. So either the Paladins on ED was terribly bad, or you're just really deluded mate

PS - not only are we the only Plate class that has AoE abilities, but when we add this to the mix, then no one can touch us when AoE tanking:

I was just talking about pure dps pushing. I'll leave the whole pala tank debate to someone else

[Theloras]

You seem to not understand the concept of what an AoE fight is cause Lucifron, Gehenas and Sulfuron are not considered AoE fights lol - at best you can get some ticks on 2 or 3 mobs at a time during those encounters but hardly worth counting on it...

You said ANY aoe fight on multiple occasions so naturally I count any boss encounter where AoE abilities is viable. You could definitely argue Lucifron and Gehennas isn't really worth counting, but on Sulfuron with 4-5 potential targets if you stack, AoE always produce the most dps on that encounter.

I haven't done any of the fights you on your list of "real aoe fights" in 10 years, but looking at the ED Boss records in Zul'gurub (AoE boss paradise) mages dominates every record with 1k to above 2k on all of the bosses in there expect for Hazza'rah, while none of the paladin records even come near, absolutely highest one being 600ish dps. So either the Paladins on ED was terribly bad, or you're just really deluded mate

PS - not only are we the only Plate class that has AoE abilities, but when we add this to the mix, then no one can touch us when AoE tanking:

I was just talking about pure dps pushing. I'll leave the whole pala tank debate to someone else

I haven't played on Peenix in like 9 months (I played on Warsong - LOL $hit server) and 1K AoE DPS by Mages and Warlocks compared to me topping 4K DPS in those same AoE situations is a direct comparison.

Mages/Warlocks can't equip Force Reactive Disk and that's what sets Paladin AoE potential from them along with our innate AoE and Reflective Dmg abilities:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STIixkkOmms
- this is WITHOUT Consecration

[Datruth]

I haven't played on Peenix in like 9 months (I played on Warsong - LOL $hit server) and 1K AoE DPS by Mages and Warlocks compared to me topping 4K DPS in those same AoE situations is a direct comparison.

Mages/Warlocks can't equip Force Reactive Disk and that's what sets Paladin AoE potential from them along with our innate AoE and Reflective Dmg abilities:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STIixkkOmms
- this is WITHOUT Consecration

Meh, shitty attempt at trolling tbh.