Not enough tanks for dungeons!

[Kuroyu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPLXCfcNDHQ

tl:dw The video points out even after druids, paladins, and then later death knights and monks became viable tank options, and even after the introduction of dual spec, there was and will always be a shortage of tanks in dungeons. Taunt won't fix the problem.

You're right that the problem can't be solved, but it can be helped and mitigated, if only slightly. Blizz changes definitely did mitigate the issue a fair amount, which is better than nothing. There is no argument as to why not help mitigate the problem in small ways.

It doesnt even have to be extreme like a taunt, more along the lines of making consecration generate 20% more aggro, etc. Minor things.

[smilkovpetko]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPLXCfcNDHQ

tl:dw The video points out even after druids, paladins, and then later death knights and monks became viable tank options, and even after the introduction of dual spec, there was and will always be a shortage of tanks in dungeons. Taunt won't fix the problem.

You're right that the problem can't be solved, but it can be helped and mitigated, if only slightly. Blizz changes definitely did mitigate the issue a fair amount, which is better than nothing. There is no argument as to why not help mitigate the problem in small ways.

It doesnt even have to be extreme like a taunt, more along the lines of making consecration generate 20% more aggro, etc. Minor things.

Why do we need improvements when we have already extreme aggro and do 3 times more threats than warriors?.

See something about that preacher why he got stupid in his video explanation :

Have you ever seen 3:12 where he is showing my Paladin Tanking BWL in Vanilla?!.

Just look at 3:12 and see why you all got wrong and why that preacher got fool of himself.
There you will see that the person tanking is me as Paladin Tank.
Just look at that Threat Metter on the video how lovely Aggro Paladin Tank doing.

[Bioness]

smilkovpetko I didn't post that video to say Warriors > Paladins, I used it as an example of why there are never enough tanks (higher skill require, more responsibility, etc).

If you paid attention to what Preach was saying during your Paladin clip (which was on a private server, not vanilla) he is talking about healer aggro and how waves of adds needed to be pulled off healers. What is it Paladins are good at? AoE tanking, as mentioned again at 11:25 saying they have the "Best AoE threat".

Please just keep with your "Paladin can tank/DPS too" crusade to the Paladin section and not in threads that have nothing to do with it.

[smilkovpetko]

smilkovpetko I didn't post that video to say Warriors > Paladins, I used it as an example of why there are never enough tanks (higher skill require, more responsibility, etc).

If you paid attention to what Preach was saying during that Paladin clip he is talking about healer aggro and how waves of adds needed to be pulled off healers. What is it Paladins are good at? AoE tanking, as mentioned again at 11:25 saying they have the "Best AoE threat".

Please just keep with your "Paladin can tank/DPS too" crusade to the Paladin section and not in threads that have nothing to do with it.

See something - That Preacher clearly said that Paladins was not Tanks until TBC , Meanwhile he posted my Video Tanking in Vanilla... Which is not even TBC.

Look i made it Clear = We can do any boss that exist in game as MT . and there is no question about it.
I don't give a penny pee what would be more or less viable if we are here to do the Job Perfect.
You can just talk nonsense until tomorrow and preach people according garbage advice until tomorrow

now because you believe in Preachers , tell me what do you see in this Screenshot ?

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 8017_o.jpg

Paladin is Tanking there or Warrior is Tanking there?

[smilkovpetko]

smilkovpetko I didn't post that video to say Warriors > Paladins, I used it as an example of why there are never enough tanks (higher skill require, more responsibility, etc).

If you paid attention to what Preach was saying during your Paladin clip (which was on a private server, not vanilla) he is talking about healer aggro and how waves of adds needed to be pulled off healers. What is it Paladins are good at? AoE tanking, as mentioned again at 11:25 saying they have the "Best AoE threat".

Please just keep with your "Paladin can tank/DPS too" crusade to the Paladin section and not in threads that have nothing to do with it.

Please just keep with your "Paladin can tank/DPS too" crusade to the Paladin section and not in threads that have nothing to do with it.

And again nothing you show proves that paladins are capable of performing just as well as warriors.

See something . You don't like when somebody just prove the opposite of you only because you fail to admit that you are incorrect on your basic understanding about Tanks. This is not my problem but your.

The problem is that you give wrong information to the people that "Paladins cannot tank or cannot preform like Warrior" which is clearly stupid argument based on 0 evidence or knowledge but also infect other People opinion.

You still talk that the screenshot is Fail ?!..

Only stupid people can deny what is already proven.

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 8017_o.jpg

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 0711_o.jpg
(chat comments are evidence here ^)

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... e=56A4B53F

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 1276_o.jpg

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 7949_o.jpg

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 6300_o.jpg

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 2501_o.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1_YEl0Yp8I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ovC3fkojlE (1st part of the video that preacher set ) full version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXV1lqIJr9w (2nd part of the video that preacher set ) full version

I clearly have no idea why should i even explain stuffs to Moron.

[Theloras]

smilkovpetko I didn't post that video to say Warriors > Paladins, I used it as an example of why there are never enough tanks (higher skill require, more responsibility, etc).

If you paid attention to what Preach was saying during your Paladin clip (which was on a private server, not vanilla) he is talking about healer aggro and how waves of adds needed to be pulled off healers. What is it Paladins are good at? AoE tanking, as mentioned again at 11:25 saying they have the "Best AoE threat".

Please just keep with your "Paladin can tank/DPS too" crusade to the Paladin section and not in threads that have nothing to do with it.

Hate to break it to you Bioness but this entire thread was about Paladins from the first post by the OP:

Not enough tanks for dungeons!
by Greengrass » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:00 am

Is it possible to add taunt spell for paladins? I know it is not blizzlike, but it is really necessary.

[Kuroyu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPLXCfcNDHQ

tl:dw The video points out even after druids, paladins, and then later death knights and monks became viable tank options, and even after the introduction of dual spec, there was and will always be a shortage of tanks in dungeons. Taunt won't fix the problem.

You're right that the problem can't be solved, but it can be helped and mitigated, if only slightly. Blizz changes definitely did mitigate the issue a fair amount, which is better than nothing. There is no argument as to why not help mitigate the problem in small ways.

It doesnt even have to be extreme like a taunt, more along the lines of making consecration generate 20% more aggro, etc. Minor things.

Why do we need improvements when we have already extreme aggro and do 3 times more threats than warriors?.

See something about that preacher why he got stupid in his video explanation :

Have you ever seen 3:12 where he is showing my Paladin Tanking BWL in Vanilla?!.

Just look at 3:12 and see why you all got wrong and why that preacher got fool of himself.
There you will see that the person tanking is me as Paladin Tank.
Just look at that Threat Metter on the video how lovely Aggro Paladin Tank doing.

I'm not saying paladins cannot tank end game content. I'm just saying that giving them a meaningful buff to stop the bad stigma around them. Personally i don't care if they do ever get changed, just making the true statement that there is bad stigma around them that can only be cleansed with a buff.

[Cronotrigger]

ok the only way to increase the number of tanks in dungeons is to implement dual spec into vanilla. which will never happen.

/thread.

[justclassic]

We could also increase group sieze to 7 So we have 5 dd per 1 tank/heal instead of 3 /sarcasm off

[illutian]

We could have a server wide bake sale to raise money to pay for the schooling at the Pro-Tech Tank University (PTTU)!