Remove Dishonorable Kills

[Valo]

Here's a few reasons:
- It's annoying for people who try to level up in the barrens to not have their NPCs spawned "well call for help", sure, we all have friends that are lvl 60, ready to come over to a crappy place like the barrens, only to realise that the guy left. And the Barrens aren't even that far away.

PvP server. You are not in fact arguing against removing dishonorable kills, you are arguing for removing or reducing PvP.

Why did you roll on PvP server if you don't want PvP, knowing the risks? I don't think that PvE people should have any say on matters when it comes to PvP.

OT: I Agree. DK's are awful, they were the devs temporary solution for reducing World PvP(and therefore crashes) early on, they obviously aren't required now that Nos is perfectly capable to handle large-scale PvP battles.

[Drooppi]

Blizzlike server. You are not in fact arguing for a blizzlike serve, you are arguing for having a fun/easy server.

Why did you roll on Blizzlike server if you don't want the "bad sides", knowing you have no skill? I don't think fun-kikoolols people should have any say on matters when it comes to feats on the server.

Better? =)

Or you could, just as I said, know what you're targetting. In diving we have a rule that says "don't dive with unsafe divers", I guess you could "not raid with unsafe raiders" ?
And also, I'm fine with someone camping my body, I'm not fine with someone camping the spawn of a quest NPC. And you have to be a complete moron to not understand the difference.

[baileyprus]

- Avoiding them shows skill, because it means you know what you're actually hitting with your spells.

IIRC, there is at least one civilian in tarren mill that aggros enemy players and cannot be killed without earning a DHK. At the very least DHK should be solely on those who struck/killed the civ, not everyone in party or raid.

Please do this!

[first999]

Dishonorable kills have to stay at all cost.
There are people in the game, like Troll Rogue Nile, who was camping in Westfall for more than 5 hours just to kill Defias Traitor when you tried to do the escort (and killing low level flaged players).

Without DKs there would be a lot more of shit like that.

[SeanTheOriginal]

All it does is to greatly discourage world pvp

Ganking = World PvP to this degenerate.

[Simonich]

Blizzlike server. You are not in fact arguing for a blizzlike serve, you are arguing for having a fun/easy server.

Why did you roll on Blizzlike server if you don't want the "bad sides", knowing you have no skill? I don't think fun-kikoolols people should have any say on matters when it comes to feats on the server.

Better? =)

Or you could, just as I said, know what you're targetting. In diving we have a rule that says "don't dive with unsafe divers", I guess you could "not raid with unsafe raiders" ?
And also, I'm fine with someone camping my body, I'm not fine with someone camping the spawn of a quest NPC. And you have to be a complete moron to not understand the difference.

There can be a 40 man raid in a city, 39 of them being skilled and pro, while 1 of them can be a bit more silly. That one can troll everyone by killing a civilian, we all should pay for this?

In this case i recommend that the dishonorable kill will be given only to the person that lays the killing blow himself. Anyway, 40 man raids are not made to gank quest givers, god damnit.

[Simonich]

Dishonorable kills have to stay at all cost.
There are people in the game, like Troll Rogue Nile, who was camping in Westfall for more than 5 hours just to kill Defias Traitor when you tried to do the escort (and killing low level flaged players).

Without DKs there would be a lot more of shit like that.

he doesnt get dishonorable kills by ganking that npc, also nile is in my guild ^^

its not like people want to gank quest givers, sure they can, but it discourages world pvp attacks to cities even more!

You're also ignoring my other suggestion that work out with people like you aswell

Making civilians invulnerable so they will never get killed, noone minds really. Or making the dishonorable kill be given to the one that lands the killing blow only

[first999]

he doesnt get dishonorable kills by ganking that npc, also nile is in my guild ^^

Well in the case that there would be no DKs, people like him would gank "DK giving NPCs" as well, and that would be even worse.

Making civilians invulnerable so they will never get killed, noone minds really. Or making the dishonorable kill be given to the one that lands the killing blow only

This suggestion is different and better. I don't see anything bad in it, but however, like I said before, it's still 1 step away from Blizzlike server so I still do not support this.

[Storfan]

Not blizzlike, no thank you. The raison d'être of this server is to the fullest amount possible copy vanilla-retail. That means no 'stream-line' fixes of any kind that arent in line with what 1.12.1 was and couldnt, wouldnt, and shouldnt be implemented.

I am against all and any kind of deviation to this rule. The server should remain as close to identic to 1.12.1 retail vanilla, no exceptions what so ever.

[triggerlily]

make quest NPC's invullnerable imo and remove dishonorable kills