Both factions on one account?

[galjin]

Why spy alts? What would you gain with that effort? Nothing valuable nor important because if it is pve, then its restricted by faction and if it is pvp, its just plain murder. Or you expected someone to spy tactics? Or economy? What use is it to you to know what the other market prices are? Nothing.

Solution: Keep your nose on your own business.

Why bank alts? There is already a bank. You can expand it with bags. Got an awful lot of equipment? Not possible unless you loot every single item AND keep it, which is not productive and its only a waste of space. If there is something better get rid of the old. If you want profession mats then gather what you need for what that char uses.

Solution: I dont even know why someone thought about doing this.

Why multibox? Seriously... the "MM" part of MMORPG stands for Massive Multiplayer. Now tell me, where is the point of using 5 characters at the same time to play with yourself? The idea of playing this is to depend on other people for things that cant be done by just one. You want a full party by yourself? Go play FF or Baldur's Gate. Also, for what? You'd be just leveling slower, needing more mats if you want to craft them things, exploiting the farm (you need to kill more AKA not let others kill and monopolize the spawns), needing more gold to buy them things or train them. That would only rise the prices in the AH and you wouldnt even contribute to it, you become a sink.

In resume: You only help yourself draining from others. A parasite. And you can't even do end game stuff because you cant multibox in BGs nor Raids, its pointless. (No, don't tell me you can, its not possible, pvp requires dynamism and movement while pve requires tactics and timing, nothing of that can be done when multiboxing.) Or wait, you also expected to run dungeons and raids by yourself and ninja everything for your alts?

Solution: Do i need to say anything else? Be a man, play one character.

[TheLockKing]

Why spy alts? What would you gain with that effort? Nothing valuable nor important because if it is pve, then its restricted by faction and if it is pvp, its just plain murder. Or you expected someone to spy tactics? Or economy? What use is it to you to know what the other market prices are? Nothing.

Solution: Keep your nose on your own business.

Why bank alts? There is already a bank. You can expand it with bags. Got an awful lot of equipment? Not possible unless you loot every single item AND keep it, which is not productive and its only a waste of space. If there is something better get rid of the old. If you want profession mats then gather what you need for what that char uses.

Solution: I dont even know why someone thought about doing this.

Why multibox? Seriously... the "MM" part of MMORPG stands for Massive Multiplayer. Now tell me, where is the point of using 5 characters at the same time to play with yourself? The idea of playing this is to depend on other people for things that cant be done by just one. You want a full party by yourself? Go play FF or Baldur's Gate. Also, for what? You'd be just leveling slower, needing more mats if you want to craft them things, exploiting the farm (you need to kill more AKA not let others kill and monopolize the spawns), needing more gold to buy them things or train them. That would only rise the prices in the AH and you wouldnt even contribute to it, you become a sink.

In resume: You only help yourself draining from others. A parasite. And you can't even do end game stuff because you cant multibox in BGs nor Raids, its pointless. (No, don't tell me you can, its not possible, pvp requires dynamism and movement while pve requires tactics and timing, nothing of that can be done when multiboxing.) Or wait, you also expected to run dungeons and raids by yourself and ninja everything for your alts?

Solution: Do i need to say anything else? Be a man, play one character.

...you're a Dev for DCUO aren't you?

[Hatson]

Why bank alts? There is already a bank. You can expand it with bags. Got an awful lot of equipment? Not possible unless you loot every single item AND keep it, which is not productive and its only a waste of space. If there is something better get rid of the old. If you want profession mats then gather what you need for what that char uses.

Solution: I dont even know why someone thought about doing this.

I see someone doesn't farm much. There's never enough bag space or bank space on one character alone when you have gathering professions.
And there's always something to stock up on to sell that is in demand in the economy.

I've had 5 bank alts with all bank slots 16 slot bags and that was barely enough to hold all the herbs, ores, bars, potions, elixirs, BoE items, cloths, gems, etc etc, general goods of the economy that servers run on.
Probably had thousands of gold in items on those bank alts alone.

If you're seriously only going to play this game with 1 character, you're gimping yourself and nothing else. Ignorance is bliss, yes. But there's only so much you're going to amount to with only one bank space and bags.

[galjin]

I wonder how only one character can gather mats from all professions when its only allowed to have 2... Makes you think eh? How about you use the bank of each character for both its professions and use the alt for its other 2 professions and so on?

Ignorance is bliss for someone that does something so wonderfully inefficient as that. Bank + 16slot bags is more than enough for 2 profs per character. I doubt you go through all the profs with only one and save everything you gathered. And if you just use the bank of that one, then whats the point of all the bank space in the other characters? Also, whats the point on saving mats? Just gather them when you are going to use them, saving mats for later is only a waste of time, cooldown on said mats and waste of space.

Please dont use dumb excuses to do something dumb. Also, this is not an economy based game, its a classical 3D version of an adventure/dungeon crawler rpg game. The objective is to follow a storyline, run dungeons, farm to craft, kill the other faction members. Not permanently farming mats/items/gold to sell for the sake of having gold and filling the AH. That's why other players exist, to gather/craft whatever you dont. And there is plenty of people so dont worry, there wont be anything missing.

I keep wondering why people want to do everything. You are not really concious of it but it actually ruins the economy of the game, it saturates the number of gatherers and crafters out there. It beats the idea where you have to wonder who crafts what when u want to have something crafted since you alone already gather/craft everything by yourself. And then we return to the "play with yourself" part.

Also to avoid more spamming, multiboxing is not allowed. It is specified in the rules.

Back on topic: I dont really think alliance and horde characters in one account gives any trouble... what's the difference with having another account and an opposite faction character in that account? Just pressing Back, and logging in that acc. In any case both things are effortless so this question might aswell be something minor. Unless its too much for you to press a button and type few letters.

[Hatson]

That's the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. I'm sorry, but your objectification of the playerbase is just silly.
Play the game how you want to play it. You shouldn't force it on others, especially when your way of playing is so incredibly shallow.
I had hoped you were trolling with some of those statements but it's obvious you're not. There's nothing more to add to this discussion because your thought process is so alien and foreign to me that there's no reason to bother.

[ironsides]

Why spy alts? What would you gain with that effort? Nothing valuable nor important because if it is pve, then its restricted by faction and if it is pvp, its just plain murder. Or you expected someone to spy tactics? Or economy? What use is it to you to know what the other market prices are? Nothing.

Learn how many of the opposite faction are on their way to world bosses?


Solution: Keep your nose on your own business.

Why bank alts? There is already a bank. You can expand it with bags. Got an awful lot of equipment? Not possible unless you loot every single item AND keep it, which is not productive and its only a waste of space. If there is something better get rid of the old. If you want profession mats then gather what you need for what that char uses.

Play a warrior and get back to me. PvE set, PvP set, fire resist set, nature resist set, and I know some people at least keep a roleplay set. Not counting consumables and materials. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Solution: I dont even know why someone thought about doing this.

You're probably a non raider.

Why multibox? Seriously... the "MM" part of MMORPG stands for Massive Multiplayer. Now tell me, where is the point of using 5 characters at the same time to play with yourself? The idea of playing this is to depend on other people for things that cant be done by just one. You want a full party by yourself? Go play FF or Baldur's Gate. Also, for what? You'd be just leveling slower, needing more mats if you want to craft them things, exploiting the farm (you need to kill more AKA not let others kill and monopolize the spawns), needing more gold to buy them things or train them. That would only rise the prices in the AH and you wouldnt even contribute to it, you become a sink.

Some people enjoy it, and some people can raid with say, 5 mages. I've seen it done, and to great success. I've also seen people multibox every instance solo outside of UBRS.

In resume: You only help yourself draining from others. A parasite. And you can't even do end game stuff because you cant multibox in BGs nor Raids, its pointless. (No, don't tell me you can, its not possible, pvp requires dynamism and movement while pve requires tactics and timing, nothing of that can be done when multiboxing.) Or wait, you also expected to run dungeons and raids by yourself and ninja everything for your alts?

Solution: Do i need to say anything else? Be a man, play one character.

Ignorance is bliss for someone that does something so wonderfully inefficient as that. Bank + 16slot bags is more than enough for 2 profs per character. I doubt you go through all the profs with only one and save everything you gathered. And if you just use the bank of that one, then whats the point of all the bank space in the other characters? Also, whats the point on saving mats? Just gather them when you are going to use them, saving mats for later is only a waste of time, cooldown on said mats and waste of space.

Point of saving mats...on a progressive release server? Maybe so when ZG gets released and felcloth/mooncloth fucking skyrockets because every warlock and their mother wants their bloodvine asap, they won't have to pay 50g for one piece. Same goes for nature resistance crafting. Every serious player and most casual raiders had their materials already gathered for AQ40 NR sets months before the NPCs with the recipes were put in place. That's like saying "WHATS THE POINT OF FARMING CENARION CIRCLE REP EARLY IF AQ40 ISNT OUT? Because the server gets bottlenecked super hard, all the time.

Please dont use dumb excuses to do something dumb. Also, this is not an economy based game, its a classical 3D version of an adventure/dungeon crawler rpg game. The objective is to follow a storyline, run dungeons, farm to craft, kill the other faction members. Not permanently farming mats/items/gold to sell for the sake of having gold and filling the AH. That's why other players exist, to gather/craft whatever you dont. And there is plenty of people so dont worry, there wont be anything missing.

If you can't see the reason why having a load of gold on hand at any time is extremely beneficial, I don't think you've been playing this game very long.

I keep wondering why people want to do everything. You are not really concious of it but it actually ruins the economy of the game, it saturates the number of gatherers and crafters out there. It beats the idea where you have to wonder who crafts what when u want to have something crafted since you alone already gather/craft everything by yourself. And then we return to the "play with yourself" part.

It all boils down to server population. Even on a server like Emerald Dream in its prime when it was kicking around 2k+ users daily, I still had problems getting the materials for things I needed to raid (ghost mushrooms were obnoxiously few in number for what I was using). Sometimes people just want to be able to get their own shit without having to rely on there 1. being mats on the auction house and 2. there not being some assbandit "PLAYIN DA AUCTION HOUZE" with what you need

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[Patience]

Lol, who is this "galjin" guy?

[Shadow]

Why spy alts? What would you gain with that effort? Nothing valuable nor important because if it is pve, then its restricted by faction and if it is pvp, its just plain murder. Or you expected someone to spy tactics? Or economy? What use is it to you to know what the other market prices are? Nothing.

Solution: Keep your nose on your own business.

Why bank alts? There is already a bank. You can expand it with bags. Got an awful lot of equipment? Not possible unless you loot every single item AND keep it, which is not productive and its only a waste of space. If there is something better get rid of the old. If you want profession mats then gather what you need for what that char uses.

Solution: I dont even know why someone thought about doing this.

Why multibox? Seriously... the "MM" part of MMORPG stands for Massive Multiplayer. Now tell me, where is the point of using 5 characters at the same time to play with yourself? The idea of playing this is to depend on other people for things that cant be done by just one. You want a full party by yourself? Go play FF or Baldur's Gate. Also, for what? You'd be just leveling slower, needing more mats if you want to craft them things, exploiting the farm (you need to kill more AKA not let others kill and monopolize the spawns), needing more gold to buy them things or train them. That would only rise the prices in the AH and you wouldnt even contribute to it, you become a sink.

In resume: You only help yourself draining from others. A parasite. And you can't even do end game stuff because you cant multibox in BGs nor Raids, its pointless. (No, don't tell me you can, its not possible, pvp requires dynamism and movement while pve requires tactics and timing, nothing of that can be done when multiboxing.) Or wait, you also expected to run dungeons and raids by yourself and ninja everything for your alts?

Solution: Do i need to say anything else? Be a man, play one character.

I basically agree to all of the above, though I don't give a damn if anybody wants to create his/her (100+self made members) own guild, with his own characters inside his own guild, to run dungeons alongside his own characters geared with armor and weapons and items made by his own characters and so on and so forth...
Its the best way to simulate a single player rpg inside a mmorpg (if you like that jazz god speed)

Edit > Nowadays WoW is a simulation of cheap singleplayer rpg after all

What WoW is now
by Regnam1 » Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:39 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQR9XWG ... youtu.be&a

All i have to say

[galjin]

If you are obsessed enough to change everything you have to get back at me then you have a problem son. My points are still valid, try playing one character and think by yourself instead of needing an spy, or do things at the moment of the release, dont just save for it when it comes out. It beats the idea of the release, or you thought people already knew what to gather when it came out? That's basically cheating.

Anyway it's sad how people overthink about things and try to develope an equation for everything. How about just create a character, and paly it? Where is the need to do all that spy, bank, gather mats stuff. Just play the dang game.

On a side note, i see you are all hardcore players here. No point in discussing things with people that overthink simple things. IMHO, you played way too much time if you actually replied my post. Tip: It's just a game. I could bet you'd go catatonic if someone broke your pc and you would not have any means of playing WoW. And let me repeat myself: multiboxing is not allowed by server rules so anything you said is worth nothing.

[ironsides]

If you are obsessed enough to change everything you have to get back at me then you have a problem son. My points are still valid, try playing one character and think by yourself instead of needing an spy, or do things at the moment of the release, dont just save for it when it comes out. It beats the idea of the release, or you thought people already knew what to gather when it came out? That's basically cheating.

Anyway it's sad how people overthink about things and try to develope an equation for everything. How about just create a character, and paly it? Where is the need to do all that spy, bank, gather mats stuff. Just play the dang game.

On a side note, i see you are all hardcore players here. No point in discussing things with people that overthink simple things. IMHO, you played way too much time if you actually replied my post. Tip: It's just a game. I could bet you'd go catatonic if someone broke your pc and you would not have any means of playing WoW. And let me repeat myself: multiboxing is not allowed by server rules so anything you said is worth nothing.

Please leave your in game tag in your sig so I can shit autistic fury all over you in game