PVE Realm

[Robotron]

Add a PVE realm
I know the first concern is going to be "Splitting the playerbase"

But i hope this is considered eventually.

The answer is the same as it's been the last 534,063 times it's been asked: no.

[Tali]

If the server was still increasing in population, then maybe opening a server might be a great choice. Rember when we had 7k+ players on? Doesn't seem like an issue anymore when we have 5.2k atm. I think with time, the playerbase will slowly decline. I'd rather have PvP on one realm with a population in the 5k range 2 months in rather than two server with 2.5k population at this time.

Imagine in a year.. what will the population look then? each realm will have 1k tops when one realm would probably gradually reduce down to 2.5k. Rather have one average population realm down the road rather than 2 low pop realms.

5k players is not an average realm- that is extremely high, even for Blizzard retail standards. Even 1k on a server isn't a tiny amount at all. It would be even better if they allowed cross-server BGs, but...

The problem with server growth as it stands is with the amount of people here. Which ties into...

If freakish respawn time for quest items/mobs was what you had in mind, I believe that it could be fixed just by tweaking it to match average number of players leveling in any given zone.

...this. I'm not talking about respawn times, I'm talking about sheer saturation of players. I remember back around launch how hard it was to find a quest mob at all- questing took forever if you weren't ahead of the curve. A lot of people will be drawn in by the large population, but then see the downside of such a large population, get frustrated, and leave. This hinders growth- there's not really room for growth on a full server. Again, 7k, and even 5.2k, is a really, really high number of players. Even if you split the server, 2k is a healthy amount of people and pretty normal for what you would see on retail even, I believe. Splitting the population would leave room for the servers to grow, and again, with cross-server BGs, the queues would be even shorter for everyone and there would be a higher total playerbase.

But basically we agree that something should be done to give people who do not want to participate in open world pvp a option.

That's really all a PVE server is. I feel like I need to reinforce that idea.

A PVE server does not mean there is no world PVP, that you cannot flag, and that PVP only happens in BGs. All a PVE server means is that, except for enemy cities/battlegrounds, you have the option whether or not to flag yourself for PVP. The option is still there.

Edit: PVE servers were actually called "Normal" servers, with PVP being the ruleset deviation. PVP just meant everybody was flagged in Contested/Enemy zones all the time without choice, whereas "Normally" you had a choice. I feel I should mention that according to census data I've looked at, there are more people on Normal servers than PVP servers.

[Ticktock]

If the server was still increasing in population, then maybe opening a server might be a great choice. Rember when we had 7k+ players on? Doesn't seem like an issue anymore when we have 5.2k atm. I think with time, the playerbase will slowly decline. I'd rather have PvP on one realm with a population in the 5k range 2 months in rather than two server with 2.5k population at this time.

You go on to make some very good points, and I agree. However, the admins have been quite clear that they wish to only maintain a single PVP server. That's their right.

The only real solution is to locate and support a team which wants to establish a PVE server of this quality. Polls and arguments to sway the Nost admins' minds aren't going to work and aren't fair to them - they've done a great job with this server and they've been quite clear about what they want for their server. Kudos to them - this server has reminded of why I used to love this game. But I played vanilla on a PVE server, as did most players, and that's what I'll look for - a 1x, no gimmicks, pure vanilla PVE server.

[Alarien]

I am pretty sure that they don't have manpower and money to make another server at this moment and since the population is as it is, their costs will probably be higher. The best way would be to make this server enjoyable for both, pve and pvp oriented people but i don't see that happening anytime soon.

[Xylon666Darkstar]

There is too many pve carebears trying to ruin my PVP experience these days. And still too oblivious to the declaration of the devs, and past discussion of this talked to death topic. Majority of the population asked for this server, as is. Devs wanted, and made this server, as is. It's never going to be pve.

If you want one so much, learn and make one yourself with like-minded people. For free. That's what the devs here have done and worked on and succeded over YEARS. Either be grateful for what this has become, stable, lively and growing, or appreciate in silence, or leave.

Please stop Fucking poking your contaminated stick into the made ready dinner pot.

[Alarien]

I would be really surprised if you for once wrote something that is well worded or makes sense.

[PanTheSatyr]

There is too many pvp gankers trying to ruin my PVE experience these days. And still too oblivious to the comments of the players, and past discussion of this talked to death topic. Unclear if majority of population asked for this server, as is. Devs wanted, and made this server, as is. It's never going to be pve, unfortunately.

Please stop Gosh Darn poking your contaminated stick into the made ready dinner pot... whatever that means.

[Tali]

To be fair, the subject of this topic is adding a Normal/PVE server in addition to the current PVP server, not changing the designation from PVP to PVE.

But just to clarify again- even if the server were changed to Normal, the only thing that would change is having the option not to be flagged in contested/enemy zones (enemy cities still flag you). That's it. Really the only change would be no more ganking/unwanted PVP. I've heard some people argue that having a server this way opens up new avenues of griefing, which might be true, but you run into that far, far less than you do the ganking. I never really had problems with it on my Normal servers on live in the past.

...trying to ruin my PVP experience these days.

Ah! I see you understand perfectly well how annoying and frustrating it is to have other players trying to ruin your experience and prevent you from playing the way you like.

[Pottu]

Don't spam insults.

[l33tplaya97]

Don't spam insults.

i love how he leaves this retarded thread up along with all the other ones on general with alliance qq'ing, instead of locking those he goes around editing peoples post.
people need to get thicker skin its the internet ffs