Give us the old PvP system back - (Rip rank 14)

[Rizzonico]

so people that are premading get fined because they start to organize themself and dominate the BGs so hard that pugs dont even want to try to fight vs them !?! if these so called pugs cant organize themself and create a own premade then they should just shut up and hope to get into a pug vs pug game, you are not supposed to get high ranks without premading so all these "changes" are total BS and the people that cry about pug vs premade are just a bunch of clueless idiots that are probabbly just jaelous about the people that actually made it to organize themself, sit for hours together in ts and dominate the shit out of bad premades/pugs, why should the DEVs punish dedicated players for plying teh game how it is supposed to be.

AHAHAHAH are u serious bro? Yea tell me how could we wait to find a pug vs pug game if premades avoided to fight each other. PvP at 60 was ruined it was not even PvP at all because in WSG the people who where not in a premade just used to afk and to wait for the bg end.

[VanillaPlayer]

so people that are premading get fined because they start to organize themself and dominate the BGs so hard that pugs dont even want to try to fight vs them !?! if these so called pugs cant organize themself and create a own premade then they should just shut up and hope to get into a pug vs pug game, you are not supposed to get high ranks without premading so all these "changes" are total BS and the people that cry about pug vs premade are just a bunch of clueless idiots that are probabbly just jaelous about the people that actually made it to organize themself, sit for hours together in ts and dominate the shit out of bad premades/pugs, why should the DEVs punish dedicated players for plying teh game how it is supposed to be.

rofl this is like saying to a high school football team to quit whining when they are up against professionals

premades should fight premades, period.

[alex85eu]

imao , this is pure gold , sure revert back to the old system when all the premades we're dodging each other 12-16h/day to camp the gy of pugs and faceroll to rank14 that was real pvp bros . /sarcasm over

[Pugger]

If this is true then I am feeling somewhat conflicted. I solo grinded to rank 8 in may/early june when the first people were still hiting rank 12-14 (looking at you maitoz), and that was a horrible experience. I got the r8 gear and called it quits, my server activity also greatly dropped, but I kept on loging for raids. My rank almost fell to 5.

Now, some time later, I have found myself in a position where I had enough likeminded individuals that wanted to pvp, so we made a premade. We were beating all the premades that ran WSG this weekend (provided we had all our 10 people in the game, lost one time when we were 9), and now things finally are looking up.

More or less, I now lead one of the strongest premades on the server. Ranks are bound to come over time as we're not that high ranked yet, max is 2 rank 9s - we even have a rank 1 priest in our group. We also don't completely nolife yet, as we're not pushing standings until more of our crew end up in the rank 9-10 area. We grind 150-200k honor per week as it is.

But now if this is implemented my team will eventually starve because even though we win all the time (so far), we will gain less honor than pugers, and people will eventually lose the motivation to play because we often have to struggle it out with 30 minute games. More and more premades will quit and we're gonna end up with silly queuetimes on the horde side too.

More or less, if this change is implemented my newly made team that I spent a lot of hard work to build will be forced to disband. I'm not happy about it, but if it keeps the pvp scene on this server going and makes many people happy then I might just be able to bite the bullet for it. But still, not happy about it.

Devs, could you please issue a statement if you really did this change or not. I would love to know.

Edit: Grammar

IF you make up things, people will prolly think your whole arguement is false and invalid.

why do you think he is lieing?

[bobmasculo]

Anyone who has played in vanilla knows the rank 14 is to be almost impossible .. want a super gear? will make mc / BWL ..: P .. thanks Developer to do the right !!

[geeritard]

From what I have experienced you can still fight PUGS as premades.
Because I keep getting rolfstomped by premades in pugs ( theyre the same old premades like always )
So yeah no really sure what they did change.

[Turdowizz]

They can still play against pugs as group of 3. So if they are lucky, hassle a bit with the queues or use some script they can get 2-3 groups on the same game. Even if they get 2 groups on the same game its actually winnable for the pugs, because lot of these premade players suck balls since they have only played against afkers.

[vathdaar]

If this is true then I am feeling somewhat conflicted. I solo grinded to rank 8 in may/early june when the first people were still hiting rank 12-14 (looking at you maitoz), and that was a horrible experience. I got the r8 gear and called it quits, my server activity also greatly dropped, but I kept on loging for raids. My rank almost fell to 5.

Now, some time later, I have found myself in a position where I had enough likeminded individuals that wanted to pvp, so we made a premade. We were beating all the premades that ran WSG this weekend (provided we had all our 10 people in the game, lost one time when we were 9), and now things finally are looking up.

More or less, I now lead one of the strongest premades on the server. Ranks are bound to come over time as we're not that high ranked yet, max is 2 rank 9s - we even have a rank 1 priest in our group. We also don't completely nolife yet, as we're not pushing standings until more of our crew end up in the rank 9-10 area. We grind 150-200k honor per week as it is.

But now if this is implemented my team will eventually starve because even though we win all the time (so far), we will gain less honor than pugers, and people will eventually lose the motivation to play because we often have to struggle it out with 30 minute games. More and more premades will quit and we're gonna end up with silly queuetimes on the horde side too.

More or less, if this change is implemented my newly made team that I spent a lot of hard work to build will be forced to disband. I'm not happy about it, but if it keeps the pvp scene on this server going and makes many people happy then I might just be able to bite the bullet for it. But still, not happy about it.

Devs, could you please issue a statement if you really did this change or not. I would love to know.

Edit: Grammar

IF you make up things, people will prolly think your whole arguement is false and invalid.

why do you think he is lieing?

I was one of those ally premades which didnt lose a single game and neevr seen this guy before, nothing else.
But i still get his point.

[weeezing]

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I was one of those ally premades which didnt lose a single game and neevr seen this guy before, nothing else.
But i still get his point.

Yeah I never actually ran into you last weekend, and we're new. Only been going for 10 days more or less. Didn't know you still premaded?

Also wth devs. Issue a statement already, we all know this has happened now. PvP forums are boiling.

[vathdaar]

its called pvp for fun ) not afking in IF/ORG like 99% of the guys who get their rank, hopefully expecting to meet a premade and have some nice fight