Remove Dishonorable Kills

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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by The Shortest Path » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:12 pm

The server is already not 100% blizzlike because of a few changes. The server cap is higher, multiboxing is banned, etc.

Removing or at least changing how DKs work would greatly improve world PvP, and this is a PvP server so that should be encouraged.
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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by Simonich » Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:40 pm

So you like just being blizzlike even if it make s the game worse? This is really a messed up stereotype
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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by pinacolata » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:10 pm

Simonich wrote:So you like just being blizzlike even if it make s the game worse? This is really a messed up stereotype


yeah that is the point i dont get with the players of this server, i mean it's ok to go blizzlike but, why stay with horrible mistakes that blizz mended in the after years for good?. Oh and i dont mean that blizz did good in the after years but there is some things that they needed urgently to fix, like faster respawns or disonhorabe kills. Do you really like being a cheap player tagging a mob in front of another player desperately trying to just finish a simple quest just because it's blizzlike?, Do you really like to invade a town getting down ranked in pvp just for because it's blizzlike?.

I played on vanilla back in the day and there were many things that i always said '' ooh they should do this or this''. And we can do it NOW. Why to not make an even better experience than vanilla blizzlike?
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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by Drooppi » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:20 pm

Well, I prefered the other pvp system, and yet you don't see me ask for it...
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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by Simonich » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:48 am

Drooppi wrote:Well, I prefered the other pvp system, and yet you don't see me ask for it...


That's simply not vanilla, we're talking about vanilla here and modifying something in it

Again, no need to be masochists just cause "blizzlike" , I say that in general
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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by first999 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:40 pm

pinacolata wrote: Do you really like being a cheap player tagging a mob in front of another player desperately trying to just finish a simple quest just because it's blizzlike?, Do you really like to invade a town getting down ranked in pvp just for because it's blizzlike?.


Yes, we do. Deal with it.
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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by dycedarge » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:26 pm

Everyone whining about DhK seem to be some kind of younger audience I feel like. There is a reason why DhK exists, its to pretend people/kids/mad boys that can't deal with other Players on the same Level to camp Quest Givers of lowies ouf of frustration. For me DhK has only positive sides. You want to Raid Invade and kill lowies? Then Deal with the DhK their perfect to represent you inability to fight others on your Level, if you have fun with that fine, but live with the shame instead of "removing" it. On a good Blizzlike Server as a true PvP Guild, you would never Invade Cities. You want World PvP? Then go out to the Level Zones theres more then enough People. You want a big Battle? Why not organize a Big Battle with another Guild on Ally side....thats how true "World PvP" is done in vanilla as a COMMUNITY. Make it urself and dont blame any "DhK" System to prevent you from doing it, thats just an excuse cause you would love to Camp lowie quest givers or something.
DhK never had any Influence on World PvP, those that care just participated in REAL World PvP Battle Organized by Guilds. Those that didnt care about PvP Rank should shame themselv visible to others while their have their Fun with lowies.

- Thats my Opinion on the Topic. Keep DhK
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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by Simonich » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:10 pm

dycedarge wrote:Everyone whining about DhK seem to be some kind of younger audience I feel like. There is a reason why DhK exists, its to pretend people/kids/mad boys that can't deal with other Players on the same Level to camp Quest Givers of lowies ouf of frustration. For me DhK has only positive sides. You want to Raid Invade and kill lowies? Then Deal with the DhK their perfect to represent you inability to fight others on your Level, if you have fun with that fine, but live with the shame instead of "removing" it. On a good Blizzlike Server as a true PvP Guild, you would never Invade Cities. You want World PvP? Then go out to the Level Zones theres more then enough People. You want a big Battle? Why not organize a Big Battle with another Guild on Ally side....thats how true "World PvP" is done in vanilla as a COMMUNITY. Make it urself and dont blame any "DhK" System to prevent you from doing it, thats just an excuse cause you would love to Camp lowie quest givers or something.
DhK never had any Influence on World PvP, those that care just participated in REAL World PvP Battle Organized by Guilds. Those that didnt care about PvP Rank should shame themselv visible to others while their have their Fun with lowies.

- Thats my Opinion on the Topic. Keep DhK


If someone wants to gank lowbies he can still do it even with dhks working without getting them.

"Let's organise a world PvP event at the roads of ashenvale, simply cause we can't do it in towns there are civilians so we can't have any sort of fun objective unfortunately" "ok!"
*waiting 20 minutes, noons appearing* coward alliance! Since they're not coming we must attack their city!

"no sorry I care about my rank gotta leave you, bye" *most people leave from raid* "oh, we're too few to do anything, disband"

No world PvP happens in the end whatsoever

This is a possible scenario, it happened to me once in another server

You should yet see my other suggestions. The man who lands the killing blow to the civilian himself, must get the dishonorable kill only, even if he's on group. Or make them invulnerable since 97% of time they get aggroed accidentally or by trolling idiots in a raid. World PvP must be encourages, and dhks, they are no problem to those who tank lowbies, they are problem to those who might want to do glorious city raids, but the system will discourage them, its unfair. Dhks or not town ganking will stay the same, but no city raids.
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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by first999 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:38 pm

I was thinking about it and the only thing that I would support is, like you said, that only the player / players who killed the NPC would get DK.

But I am against totaly removing DKs or making civilians invulnerable.
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Re: Remove Dishonorable Kills

by The Shortest Path » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:17 am

Dishonorable kills don't actually add anything positive to the game, though. It is an entirely negative system, and thus removing it would be beneficial. This isn't rocket science.
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