Remove PvP Realm Status

[Kleigon]

I accept the rules, of course I do, otherwise I wouldn't be playing here. But like I said, there's nothing wrong with asking for change. It's how we evolve.

dont come here and then try and change the rules. thats not evolving either btw lmao, im starting to think your just a troll because theres no way someone can be this stupid

Aww, OGTUCKEDIN, don't be that way. Also, if I were you, I'd refrain from using words whose meanings escaped me. Just saying...

[OGTUCKER117]

I accept the rules, of course I do, otherwise I wouldn't be playing here. But like I said, there's nothing wrong with asking for change. It's how we evolve.

dont come here and then try and change the rules. thats not evolving either btw lmao, im starting to think your just a troll because theres no way someone can be this stupid

Aww, OGTUCKEDIN, don't be that way. Also, if I were you, I'd refrain from using words whose meanings escaped me. Just saying...

you have no defense or counter argument so you try and make a cute post
nice

[Kleigon]

Aww, OGTUCKEDIN, don't be that way. Also, if I were you, I'd refrain from using words whose meanings escaped me. Just saying...

you have no defense or counter argument so you try and make a cute post
nice

You don't understand my posts. You don't counter them, you just call names. If you would like to have an intelligent conversation, you need to avoid insulting people, otherwise you end up getting insulted yourself.

Is this sinking in? Does your adolescent mind truly comprehend what I'm saying? I doubt it. So why should I bother trying to have an intelligent conversation with someone like you? All you would do is avoid all of the parts of my post that make sense (to anyone with two brain cells to rub together, anyway) and pick a single line, for which, you can think of a counterpoint (though way off) and attack that and ignore the rest. You have 0 empathy (consideration of others, in case you don't know that word), so why should I bother with you? Instead, I will continue to refer to you as the resident spoiled little child, because that's how you act.

Anything else, OGTUCKEDIN? Keep wearing the emoticon shades, though, because we all think you're real cool. Very fitting...

[b1oodx]

90% of this server prefers PvP. You 10% carebear PvErs are the reason Pandas infest retail your incessant crying has ruined WoW. Go back to Retail where your part of the 90% and continue to help make that game worse with every expansion.







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[Orcduck]

Personally, I support PvP since it adds some excitement to the game.

Yes corpse-camping is and will be present but I think these people are in the minority. Most players I've seen spend their time gearing up or leveling, not wasting time ganking ppl 40 levels below.

[Hydra9268]

man up. seriously. stay in town if you are scarred. no one is forcing you to play

Did you even bother to read the OP's post? Everything written has merit. Some players want the PVE experience of vanilla. They don't want PVP forced on them. That's the way they like to play. There's is NOTHING wrong with that play style.

There are many PVP players who actually play by certain personal rules (i.e. no corpse camping, no killing the same target over and over again, no stalking, etc.). Unfortunately whenever people are given a platform for griefing with NO rules it brings out the worse in people. Coupled this by the fact that there's a population that's greater than any server during vanilla days.

[Hydra9268]

90% of this server prefers PvP. You 10% carebear PvErs are the reason Pandas infest retail your incessant crying has ruined WoW. Go back to Retail where your part of the 90% and continue to help make that game worse with every expansion.

So much of what you wrote is wrong.

1. Players have no say in what expansion Blizzard decides to do. Blizzard doesn't ask players to vote for what expansion or features they would like to see next.

2. Could you please provide actual data that shows "90% of this server perfers PVP"? Or did you just pull that number from your ass because it "feels" right? What other information do you have lurking in your ass? Can your ass tell us who shot JFK because it "feels" right?

3. PVE players, like PVP players, had nothing to do with Mist of Panderia. Again I point to #1. Blizzard, not the players, decided on this expansion. Chen Stormstout was something Samwise Didier came up with. So if you have a problem with WOW pandas go bitch to the person who actually created them.

4. Voicing an opinion or request for something isn't "incessant crying".

5. The player base has nothing to do with how well a game will do. Why do you think we are all here playing vanilla? It has nothing to do with the players. It has to do with the fact that when Blizzard developed World of Warcraft they knew what they were doing. They didn't involve the players during its development and they continue to not involve players in the development of future expansions.

[Liefde]

90% of this server prefers PvP. You 10% carebear PvErs are the reason Pandas infest retail your incessant crying has ruined WoW. Go back to Retail where your part of the 90% and continue to help make that game worse with every expansion.

So much of what you wrote is wrong.

You've taken the time to write a point by point of your argument. It's good that you've decided to voice your opinion, and you should definitely keep doing so in the future. I cannot help but feel though that your post doesn't really add anything to the discussion. Normally I'd ignore your post as a result, but because you seemed to have put an effort into it I'd like to give you some feedback.

1. Players have no say in what expansion Blizzard decides to do. Blizzard doesn't ask players to vote for what expansion or features they would like to see next.

Right here you're trying to voice your opinion, yet you've stated it as a fact. What was the opinion you were trying to get across? And if you are stating it as a fact then what kind of evidence can you give to support this argument?

2. Could you please provide actual data that shows "90% of this server perfers PVP"? Or did you just pull that number from your ass because it "feels" right? What other information do you have lurking in your ass? Can your ass tell us who shot JFK because it "feels" right?

No need to assume or call names, he made it up. No need to pay attention to it.

3. PVE players, like PVP players, had nothing to do with Mist of Panderia. Again I point to #1. Blizzard, not the players, decided on this expansion. Chen Stormstout was something Samwise Didier came up with. So if you have a problem with WOW pandas go bitch to the person who actually created them.

Once again you're voicing an opinion here while you're making it sound like they're facts. I don't see how this is anything other than baseless assumptions. Please provide evidence. As a side note, it is probably true that Samwise Didier once drew up a Pandarian, it's also true they were an april fools joke. What I'm trying to say here is there are many things you can say about the pandaran concept so I feel it is quite the maze to walk through before you can get something useful out of it. Perhaps it's best to not pay any attention to this as well..

4. Voicing an opinion or request for something isn't "incessant crying".

What does this add to your argument? Seems like you're just prodding him. Please rephrase and make sure to carry over the point that you were trying to make. If you simply disagree with his statement, then pay no mind to it. Best to not pay attention to it.

5. The player base has nothing to do with how well a game will do. Why do you think we are all here playing vanilla? It has nothing to do with the players. It has to do with the fact that when Blizzard developed World of Warcraft they knew what they were doing. They didn't involve the players during its development and they continue to not involve players in the development of future expansions.

I'm actually shocked at most of this statement. Please step back from the argument and re-read this part. Of all the points you've made this one comes across as the most confusing to me. Perhaps it's worded wrongly but I read this as:

"A game will do well regardless of players. The developer never involved their players during the development and will never involve players in their content"

An easy way to counter this statement: Here's an interview http://finalboss.tv/main/2014/4/3/episo ... -interview. Press Ctrl+F to search through the article, use the keyword "Feedback"

Either way I hope you'll be able to benefit from my feedback. Carry on!

PvP is great btw. Please keep the server just the way it is PvP wise!!

[b1oodx]

So much of what you wrote is wrong.

1. Players have no say in what expansion Blizzard decides to do. Blizzard doesn't ask players to vote for what expansion or features they would like to see next.

2. Could you please provide actual data that shows "90% of this server perfers PVP"? Or did you just pull that number from your ass because it "feels" right? What other information do you have lurking in your ass? Can your ass tell us who shot JFK because it "feels" right?

3. PVE players, like PVP players, had nothing to do with Mist of Panderia. Again I point to #1. Blizzard, not the players, decided on this expansion. Chen Stormstout was something Samwise Didier came up with. So if you have a problem with WOW pandas go bitch to the person who actually created them.

4. Voicing an opinion or request for something isn't "incessant crying".

5. The player base has nothing to do with how well a game will do. Why do you think we are all here playing vanilla? It has nothing to do with the players. It has to do with the fact that when Blizzard developed World of Warcraft they knew what they were doing. They didn't involve the players during its development and they continue to not involve players in the development of future expansions.

1. maybe not the concept, but very much so the content in each expansion has a large quantity of requested features. If you read through the popular requests and WoW features you will see a very distinct correlation.

2. Umm its basically common sense maybe not 90% but the majority is for PvP. If you want some ground to stand on with your request start a poll.

3. Pandas me saying that was more of a sarcastic remark/joke. although i heard asia had been requesting an asian themed expansion, maybe even pandas who knows. Don't take everything so literally lol.

4. Have you read the forums about pvp over the years? I have, lots of "incessant crying" about pvp, guess what? Blizz listened and retarded things happened. Thank god nos isnt blizzard.

5. Um no Blizzard listens to what people want. For example MoP Stampede was a feature PvErs had been requesting for years so they could see all their pets fighting at once. Look how that turned out. Want an example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNoeCnDycsw. Like i said see something retarded in WoW look back to see if it was requested chances are it was, Hello psyfiend.

[popezaphod]

I don't know if 90% of players prefer PvP to PvE is a good number or not, but I do know any "poll" is going to simply reflect (a) people who read the forums (a minority of players) and (b) people who respond to polls (a minority of people who read forums).

The only real way to determine who likes PvP and who likes PvE is to offer one of each realm (with free one-time transfers from one realm to the other the first week) and see which realm has the bigger population.

Since this is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN, the best us PvE folks can do is bring up the topic and listen to jerks like OG call us names and tell us to learn2play. We're clearly gluttons for punishment already as we put up with both PvP and jerks just to get our Vanilla fix.