Free Talent Resets

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Re: Free Talent Resets

by Shiggs13 » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:10 pm

It's not gonna happen man. I understand, you want it to change, but this is how it worked back in the day and how it works in all private servers even up to wotlk.

Viper has already posted that it wont change here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51&start=50

You're fighting a lost battle.
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Re: Free Talent Resets

by rcoop » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:52 pm

norm964bgb wrote:Edit: The paragraph about the diversity: It's about diversity among players. Player A is a diehard raider. Therefore he's min/maxed for raiding. Now he has raid times twice a week which is sufficient for a raider who knows what he's doing. Once Ony, once MC. Now he will raid Wednesday and Saturday. He will respec twice a week back and forth and still be at 40g if its 10g a respecc. Now most characters will specc from raid PvE, to farm PvE or PvP specc. Everybody will run the same specc.
Whereas now the PvPer will always have an edge about the PvEer because the PvEer has to heavily consider whether to respec or rather stay with this build and take some PvP disadvantages.
Diversity among player base is given.
Diversity for the single player is not given.
I choose to have the former diversity.
My character shouldn't be a one army. He should only be a hero, a tiny person in the entire world. Not the way it's in retail where one hybrid character is all: DD, FC, Healer. All done in seconds switching dualspecc.

That's forced diversity man. That creates sheep out of people, just following the common mold. You can't have a group like that. That ends up with sheep following sheep. You can't have a real group unless someone becomes an indidual. It's a paradox, but it makes perfect sense. What you're talking about isn't for the whole, it's just an idea of the whole. You can't be a part of the whole until you become an individual. How can you be an indiviual if you don't have freedom? What you're talking about is exactly what we have in society today, and it just ends up with people going around in circles. They end up becoming a nuisance to themselves and society. It's very descructive.
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Re: Free Talent Resets

by norm964bgb » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:37 pm

It's a game and I don't want to have too much diversity.
I like forced diversity.
In Red Orchestra or Insurgency - relatively indie games - you have one leader, couple antitank guys, two snipers, and 3 SMGs people. The other 20 team mates are riflemen with their primary and not even a a secondary. Rifle, one nade and that's it.
In Battlefield 3 everybody and their mom can be sniper.
There you COULD have your diversity but everybody gravitates towards one thing.
Therefore I prefer the first option where developers force you in one direction.
In WoW you would have the same cookiecutter build in raids, people are done with raids for the evening and go for the other cookie cutter build.
It's an imaginary diversity/freedom because you will always go in the way of least resistance or get kicked off the group if you try going hemo in a raid.
I'm glad to sacrifice diversity for a better quality game.

An afterthought from today: I don't want to be a one man army that's prepared for everything immediately.
The approach in D2 was even more puristic. There you only had ONE built and to be effective you had to stack synergies in this built. Too bad if the mobs were lighting IMMUNE if you were trap assassine who only worked with lighthing traps. Get yourself a proper group or run around them towards other mobs.
And you know what? I LIKED it. You could not be the one guy, who does everything on his own.
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Re: Free Talent Resets

by josh90 » Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:44 pm

Please change it !!!! Sometimes I want to do pve sometimes pvp change otherwise it gets boring if you always have to respecc and waste money on it so you wont do it. And in the end you just quit the game.


Please have free respecc talents would make the game so much fun to play as the talents points were everything!
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Re: Free Talent Resets

by Shiggs13 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:07 am

josh90 wrote:Please change it !!!! Sometimes I want to do pve sometimes pvp change otherwise it gets boring if you always have to respecc and waste money on it so you wont do it. And in the end you just quit the game.


Please have free respecc talents would make the game so much fun to play as the talents points were everything!


Viper's post: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51&start=50

Not gonna happen.
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Re: Free Talent Resets

by norm964bgb » Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:17 am

josh90 wrote:Please change it !!!! Sometimes I want to do pve sometimes pvp change otherwise it gets boring if you always have to respecc and waste money on it so you wont do it. And in the end you just quit the game.


Please have free respecc talents would make the game so much fun to play as the talents points were everything!


Go join a group of wPvPers. There you can still excel even without perfect build. Just work around it, if it isnt to your liking.
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Re: Free Talent Resets

by Tosicx » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:30 am

This is obviously not happening because its a rather stupid idea. No need to keep spaming this thread.
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Re: Free Talent Resets

by rcoop » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:02 pm

Tosicx wrote:This is obviously not happening because its a rather stupid idea. No need to keep spaming this thread.

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Re: Free Talent Resets

by Pottu » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:30 pm

As stated by others in this thread, Viper has made it very clear:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51&start=50#p677
that respecc costs will remain the way they were on vanilla. I believe this discussion has run its due course so I'm locking the thread before passions run wild.
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